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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists
Date Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:33:13 GMT

On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti
> <> wrote:
>> Il 11/12/2011 Rob Weir wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti <...>  wrote:
>>>> - A support list, named ooo-users-it at
>>>> - A project list, named ooo-project-it at
>>> I wonder if ooo-general-it.i.a.o might be possible, instead of
>>> ooo-project-it.i.a.o?
>> It would be possible but suboptimal, as "general" is not "general" for us,
>> since most people will want to subscribe to "users" and the "project" list
>> would be "specific" (i.e., for volunteers) and not "general". This is why I
>> wrote:
>>>> I propose to ... use "ooo-project-it" instead of "ooo-general-it"
>>>> since it is much easier to understand for us.
>> Then we could revise the names at graduation time; it might well be that the
>> Japanese list is renamed too.
> Tt is a convention at Apache for the main list of a project to be a
> "dev" list and for it to cover more than just coding.  But we could
> decide to make a different convention if we think it would be less
> confusing to our community.
> To me "general" means a general project list, not specifically dev, or
> qa or marketing, but all of these functions.
> I don't have a strong preference for one naming scheme over another,
> but it would be good to be consistent.  If we go with "project" then
> maybe we rename ooo-dev to at
> graduation?

The consistency is as follows:

(1) MLs have this form: ooo-*@incubator.a.o

(2) NL MLs have the form: ooo-*-<nl-code>@i.a.o

(3) Apache convention is about the main list being ooo-dev@a.i.o. I've seen nothing to suggest
it has to apply to every NL.

(4) ML names have to be valid for Apache Infra and not profane or otherwise problematic.

I think we have to follow each NL's understanding of their own language.

So, totally +1 to Andrea's plan.


> -Rob
>> Anyway it's clear that neither of ooo-general-it and ooo-project-it would be
>> a final list name, since the "ooo" acronym will much likely disappear upon
>> graduation. I was merely trying to get names a bit more in the right
>> direction.
>> If ooo-project-it is not OK, settling on ooo-general-it will surely be
>> better than leaving several hundreds people waiting for a solution.
>> Regards,
>>  Andrea.

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