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From Carl Marcum <>
Subject Re: Merry Christmas and some private thoughts
Date Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:28:37 GMT
+1 Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year Everyone !!!

Best Wishes,

On 12/23/2011 07:35 AM, J├╝rgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi all,
> before i will leave for a short Christmas break i would like to share
> some thoughts with you about the last months, my private expectations,
> and my wishes for the next year.
> Oracle's announcement to stop their investment in was a
> shock for me. Well the reason is obvious, I was paid by Oracle and
> worked on this project. The people who know me from the past know that i
> am a 100% guy and I always appreciated to work on this
> project and with our community. I always felt part of the overall
> community. I know the reasons that were responsible for the LibreOffice
> fork and the split of the community and i have to confess that i can
> understand it. But i didn't liked how it was made. If Oracle would have
> done this step 6 month earlier I am sure we wouldn't have this fork and
> this split of the community. We would potentially still have the go-oo
> fork which was the foundation for LibreOffice but that is something
> different. Anyway it is as it is at moment and we will see how it moves
> forward in the future.
> The grant to Apache was at least the appropriate signal that
> as a project will never die. The brand is to big and to
> important, the opportunities around the product and the overall eco
> system are great and I was very sure that the project will continue.
> But a lot of work was and still is in front of us. We had to deal with a
> lot of things in parallel where other derivative projects didn't had to
> deal with at least not in the public. We had to migrate the whole
> infra structure to Apache and had to ensure that it work.
> I think we were very successful here and have migrated nearly everything
> we need from a technical perspective.
> Our mission was to migrate as much as possible of the available stuff of
> and at least save it for later use. I think we did
> it! Thanks to all who made this possible. And we can concentrate in the
> future on some structural and conceptual redesign of the main portal
> page to provide the information to our users that
> they need to find the product, to find more information like help,
> discussion forums, to find the way in the community if they want to do
> more etc.
> We couldn't simply use the code as it was and could continue with the
> development as in the past because of the different license. A huge
> challenge that is still ongoing and where i had many problems with at
> the beginning. It is not easy to explain why you remove something and
> replace it with something new that provide the same functionality but is
> under a more appropriate license. It's simply boring work and no
> developer really like it. But is a prerequisite for Apache and in the
> end it is better for our eco system because the Apache license is much
> friendlier for business usage as any other open source license. As an
> individual developer I don't care too much about all the different open
> source licenses, as along as the work i do is good for the project and
> in the end for our users. But i learned that the Apache license can be a
> door opener for more contributors and more engagement of companies. And
> i think that is important and can only help our project.
> And not everything is bad. With the IP cleanup we really cleaned up many
> things and Armin's replacement for svg import/export is the best
> solution we ever had for OpenOffice and with the biggest potential for
> further improvements. All this is really motivating for the future!
> Well we had a lot of noise and communication problems on our mailing
> lists and i think we missed to transport the message that
> has found a new home under the Apache foundation and we have missed to
> communicate the progress we have made in the pubic. We can do much
> better in the future! And i am looking forward to work with all of you
> on this communication part in the future. We don't have to be shy, we
> work on a great project with a great product and we should have enough
> to communicate and to share in the public (not only on our mailing list
> but on all the modern and very useful medias like facebook, Google+,
> twitter, ...)
> For the next year I expect that we find a way to guide and control our
> project a little bit better. I expect our first release early next year
> and hopefully a second one later the year where we can show that we are
> able to drive the project forward and that we are able to create and
> establish a vibrant and living community.
> I wish that we can gain trust in the project and in the Apache way and
> that it is a good move forward. Our users simply want the best free,
> open source product and they don't care about the different licenses.
> Enterprise users would like to see a huge and working community with the
> participation of a lot of different companies or at least their
> employees working on the project. We all know that such a huge and
> successful project can only work if we have individual community members
> as well as fulltime community members. Important is the WE and the
> TOGETHER that makes open source projects successful.
> I heart voices and read emails where people said that Apache is not able
> to manage such a huge end user oriented project with all the necessary
> things. A strong statement, isn't it. At the beginning i have to confess
> that i also had doubts and wasn't sure. But as i have mentioned in an
> earlier email that i have seen and got the necessary signals over time
> that Apache is willing to listen and is open for changes as well if they
> make sense for the overall success of our project and if these changes
> are aligned with the overall Apache principles. And i think that is fair
> enough for all.
> The move to Apache is a big challenge for all of us. Apache had many
> very successful projects but none of the these project has such a hue
> end-user focus like OpenOffice. And it is no small project, no it is one
> of biggest and most successful open source projects ever. And the
> migration was and is not easy. But we the community can do it, we as
> individuals, everybody can help and we together will do it!
> And the Apache way and the Apache license have proven in the past and
> with many successful projects that it is a good way and a good license
> to achieve this.
> Enough from me for now and i will take a break over the Christmas days
> to relax a little bit with family and friends. I will read emails from
> time to time but not too much ;-)
> I wish you all merry Christmas, enjoy the days, take your own break too,
> load your batteries for our next challenge in 2012.
> Regards
> Juergen

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