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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: draft - Website migration(+) announcement - draft
Date Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:05:40 GMT
Drew,

HTML is not so good as there is no consistency in presentation.

Hagar's graphic gives me a missing plug-in message.

This is the weird html:

<A HREF="http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg"><IMG SRC="cid:1325361222.3766.2.camel@sybil-gnome"
ALIGN="bottom" ALT="Apache OpenOffice (uncubating) Logo " BORDER="0"></A>

Apple Mail can't understand the IMG mime-type.

The A tag links to another location ...

I think plain text is best.

I'm only commenting about form - I don't have time to comment about the content.

Regards,
Dave

On Dec 31, 2011, at 11:56 AM, drew wrote:

> On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 15:19 -0800, kay.schenk wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:49 PM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 21:21 +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> >> On 29/12/2011 drew wrote:
>> >> > During this migration period community developers also made great
>> >> > progress with the application code. Ariel Constenla-Haile, one of the
>> >> > community developers, generated binary packages, suitable for early
>> >> > testing purposes, from the current Apache OpenOffice code repository.
>> >> > Available for download at http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages
>> >>
>> >> I wouldn't send out public announcements about Ariel's builds. The
>> >> interest is huge, and people might download them just out of curiosity
>> >> and damage their existing OpenOffice.org installation and extensions.
>> >
>> > Well, good point. I think it is important to be clear that the code (the
>> > application and therefore the 'thing' of real importance to users) is
>> > moving forward also however..not sure how to do that without something
>> > concrete to point to - as you say though it is something that can
>> > backfire badly, if people just install those files..
>> >
>> >> It's probably better to announce, at due time, development builds that
>> >> won't interfere with the installed version (and ideally, not even with
>> >> the user profile if the BerkeleyDB removal has implications on that).
>> >
>> > Then maybe the announcement should just chronicle the items of interest:
>> >
>> > - Developer snapshot's are becoming available - that's Ariel's page as
>> > one
>> > - Daily builds are happening and there is a real location for those
>> > - others?
>> >
>> > and then point them to a page (website or wiki?) for those interested in
>> > getting in on the bleeding edge of testing, maybe?
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> it is a good little snippet of info.  But there is so much more to
>> say, especially for an audience that we've haven't been
>> (re-)introduced to yet.  Where to start?
>> 
>> I wonder whether it would be worth reviving the OpenOffice Newsletter?
>>  This was sent out to the old announce list.  It was erratic toward
>> the end, but at one point I think it was coming out every month.
>> 
>> Some examples:
>> 
>> March 2011:  http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/announce/archive/2011-03/message/0
>> 
>> December 2010:
>> http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/announce/archive/2010-12/message/0
>> 
>> September 2010:
>> http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/announce/archive/2010-09/message/0
>> 
>> A format like that allows us to bundle a few small posts, news
>> clippings, announcements, etc., into a fuller package, maybe with
>> greater impact.
>> 
>> For example, we could a series of these over the next few months:
>> 
>> Newsletter #1:  Intro to OpenOffice @ Apache.  Announcements on
>> migration, copyleft-free build, start of test effort, links to blog,
>> mailing lists, migration status, announcement of pending retirement of
>> openoffice.org email addresses and lists, etc.
>> 
>> Newsletter #2 (a month later): availability of test builds for 3.4
>> (hopefully on Windows by then), how to help with test effort, reminder
>> on mailing list migration and mail forwarding shutdown.  Gathering
>> proposals for AOO 4.0.
>> 
>> Newsletter #3 -- coverage of 3.4 release, press clippings, etc.
>> 
>> A newsletter could be put together on the wiki and then the
>> announcement can be a link to the online newsletter. 
>> 
> 
> 
> Alright - well, without worry about a schedule beyond this one...
> 
> Another draft..
> 
> This is HTML and not sure what the list will do with it :-/ (is it a silly question to
ask if the new announce list accepts html? )
> 
> ******
> 
>     Newsletter
> 
> 
> < ꝏ January 2012 ꝏ >
> 
> 
> 
> Infrastructure
> 
> The Apache OpenOffice podling project management committee (PPMC) is
> pleased to present a new home for the OpenOffice.org website.
> 
> 
> 
> The migration of such a large web presence could not happen without the
> thoughtful dedication and commitment from many members of the
> OpenOffice.org community, none more so then Dave Fisher, Kay Schenk, Joe
> Schaefer and Gavin McDonald. The PPMC thanks all the community members
> for your continued support and offers a special thank you to these
> individuals for a job well done. 
> 
> 
> Development
> 
> During this migration period community developers also made great
> progress with the application code. Ariel Constenla-Haile, one of the
> community developers, generated binary packages, suitable for early
> testing purposes, from the current Apache OpenOffice code repository.
> 
> 
> Community
> 
> Hagar Delest  put together a summary of of EN forum activity from the launch date to
present. 
> 
> 
> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=46497.
> A graph shows the number of posts, registered members, topics and
> topics marked as solved. There is nothing very exciting, which is just
> what one wants after changing hosts.
> 
> F. C. Costero added this comment to the subject on the AOO development mailing list:
> "My own experience is that there is no noticeable change in the forum
> since the migration to ASF except for the feather on every page.
> Thanks to the ASF infra folks for keeping all that magic stuff
> invisible."
> 
> 
> Start the new year right
> 
> - visit the new Apache OpenOffice home now!
> http://openoffice.org
> 
> 
> 
> ****** 
> 


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