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Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 14:49:38 -0800
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Subject: Re: [WWW][Policy] Participate! - Rewriting
 contributing.openoffice.org
From: Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Nov 26, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Nov 25, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I agree that we can be quick. We will ask Apache Infra to permanently
> >>>> redirect contributing.openoffice.org to our new page either to
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://ooo-site.apache.org/participate/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/participate/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As long as there is a simple page in place the infra change can
> proceed
> >>>> independently from the content correction.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 3) From what I've been told, the plan is to switch the ooo-site live
> >>>>>> within a couple of weeks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, next few weeks. I'm contemplating a more direct approach and
> >>>> pruning approach that must proceed specially for several subdomains.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> downloads.oo.o is another discussion and it goes as far away from the
> >>>> podling site as possible.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So.... it seems to me that anything that can be done now, in the
> short
> >>>>>> term, is more useful.  We can always refine it over time, add to
> it.,
> >>>>>> expand it, make it more friendly, etc.  But almost anything is
> better
> >>>>>> than the 100% incorrect information that is on the website now.  So
> >>>>>> I'd recommend, per my original proposal, that we just put a 1-pager
> up
> >>>>>> for now, directing volunteers to ooo-dev.  Unless, of course,
> someone
> >>>>>> actually is volunteering to do more in this same timeframe.  Doing
> >>>>>> more later is fine as well.  But let's keep the focus on what can be
> >>>>>> done in, say the next two weeks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Agreed. Keep it simple and then refine it. I think it will turn some
> >>>> attention to the AOO podling's story.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Let's try to restart this thread, since it appears entropy got he best
> >>>> of it in the first try.
> >>>>
> >>>> We currently have this on the Podling website:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we update that as needed and just direct the participate page to
> >> that?
> >>>>
> >>>> One higher level issue we have is that we have never reached consensus
> >>>> on how the Apache-domain project site and the openoffice.org site
> >>>> relate.  I'll start another thread on that/
> >>>>
> >>>> -Rob
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Rob
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Rob--We can certainly do this pretty quickly if that's what we TRULY
> >> want.
> >>> I don't see any responses to this in the last 4 days.
> >>>
> >>> My only concern/objection is that if we did this, the "users" are
> bounced
> >>> out of the user portal and into what we are now considering the
> >> "developer"
> >>> portal, but, oh well.
> >>
> >> This is a concern, but I think that this is the correct action - if a
> user
> >> wants to participate then they are engaging at Apache.
> >>
> >> I think it will be important that the "get_involved" page has been
> updated
> >> and that the PPMC (and our mentors) are happy with it.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> How about if we don't hear any major objections by say, Dec. 1, I'll go
> >>> ahead and make this change (redirect contributing/index.html to this).
> >>> Nothing is in concrete, we can always go back or do something else.
> >>
> >> I am back home and will be thinking through a number of details and a
> >> larger plan.
> >>
> >
> > Oh good! We have LOTS of details to work out that's for sure. I hope I
> can
> > accomplish the redirect through a meta redirect in a header for now --
> thus
> > preserving the content. However, with the current CMS, hmmm....not sure
> if
> > I can get this to work. We'll see.
>
> We can just redirect everything that is contributing.openoffice.org to
> wherever we decide. We'll do this on migration with HTTPD configuration. On
> www. we should just change the URL.
>

ok, gotcha!


>
> As far as preserving the old - at this point I think we should tag the
> directory in svn and then remove it. You have a copy in your people as well.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> MzK
> >>>
> >>> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged
> >>> by the way its animals are treated."
> >>>                             -- Mohandas Gandhi
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged
> > by the way its animals are treated."
> >                              -- Mohandas Gandhi
>
>


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