Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39C5D99C0 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 21:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65906 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2011 21:16:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65859 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2011 21:16:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65850 invoked by uid 99); 8 Nov 2011 21:16:32 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:16:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of luispo@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-wy0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:16:26 +0000 Received: by wyh5 with SMTP id 5so1051246wyh.6 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:16:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b9NoKIAtfbyYZhMEJtHgbdRvEUoo3JzgUpfze86AkA4=; b=wM9idrT7Lvlw505I+Gue/AjYujCcp200U0UkZ555syXNuRCiu1l1kwvey9fpanZM+4 tbhrLRoOhif8Q70LiM5pGFpefIrBvQ0ui/Zl/cUiukNzVnss8MB36HRobf0RB/dcxKTU oKU6VGfSVLi3O7WvkE3EEhJHIRzQTgTtlndxA= Received: by 10.227.208.149 with SMTP id gc21mr34031995wbb.10.1320786965069; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:16:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: luispo@gmail.com Received: by 10.227.196.195 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:15:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3FF5E704-E0B7-4AE7-9B23-FAE3C948A1CB@free.fr> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Louis_Su=C3=A1rez=2DPotts?= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:15:44 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3QOHZYJVnGMJCltANVU3xWV27X8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Request] create ooo-discuss@incubator.apache.org mailing list To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, On 8 November 2011 15:58, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:48 PM, eric b wrote: >> As a compromise, what about to create ooo-discuss@incubator.apache.org = =C2=A0? > > We could certainly move all the name-calling there... > > At the moment, though, policy issues, legal issues and the like are > still development issues simply because the precedents haven't yet > been set. =C2=A0So what would be talked about on ooo-discuss that wouldn'= t > have an impact here? > > Or would that be a place for those discussions that take on a life of > their own, such that someone says, "Okay, let's take this to > ooo-discuss", whereupon it gets hashed out and comes back here with a > [Proposal]? > In OOo-land, discuss list conversations were often initiated (if not always) by non-developers expressing wishes, comments, complaints or other OT stuff, though that latter was limited. Developers intervened and explained and invariably politely explicated what was what. However, that was the old OOo site. The new Apache one has a stronger developer focus. It's not as much a discursive site as the old. So, I tend, using that logic, to favour a purely dev@ list focused on development. But there remains the problem=E2=80=94or virtue=E2=80=94of the non-develope= r contributor whose contributions are immensely valuable and include not just localizations, but also extensions, templates, etc. etc., that make OOo as usable as it is (and would make it even more usable). Where these discussions take place is the question. -louis > Don >