Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38C74973A for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 73991 invoked by uid 500); 10 Nov 2011 19:10:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 73843 invoked by uid 500); 10 Nov 2011 19:10:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 73835 invoked by uid 99); 10 Nov 2011 19:10:07 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:10:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of luispo@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-wy0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:10:02 +0000 Received: by mail-wy0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 5so3322770wyh.6 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:09:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=apFlRAvwe0zlBjLyHf9FKcKPKe/KN10b3Y1IUSsIoro=; b=WYtNcP5LeOP5LEmOdOkZyYdQ17nn/wVjGkn6V/GBIon9wNg5UZnzBKEEzQqbnqI4Bt a843/O8RVArQAmnn16CtSwMRiW9/DsxnIuoFMvELnTfsBAAA78sToU0euiIra9uQ6A/J KIi81e5cWq+TYzgQ7GNg7Ofn51yx86uYCaVhc= Received: by 10.227.206.143 with SMTP id fu15mr5378927wbb.16.1320952181079; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:09:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: luispo@gmail.com Received: by 10.227.156.202 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:09:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Louis_Su=C3=A1rez=2DPotts?= Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:09:20 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ei4obWT1Zv1LHK0MGD_2CPFO8jk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Shutdown of openoffice.org email forwarder: How to notify users To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rob, On 10 November 2011 11:05, Rob Weir wrote: > It looks like the email forwarder will not be migrating to Apache. Right > =C2=A0We > don't want this to be a surprise to users. =C2=A0We want them to have amp= le > notice to adjust to this change. =C2=A0I'd like to have a discussion on h= ow > we can best do this, and to see if there are any volunteers to help > with this. > > =3D=3DPlan 1=3D=3D > > Publish details on AOOo wiki page, and publicize via mailing lists, > website and social media. > > We can make a wiki page that covers: > > 1) Clear statement that the forwarding service is going away, why and whe= n? > > 2) What will happen with emails sent to these addresses (we are not > storing any emails, we do not touch them. =C2=A0They will be bounced and > the sender will get an error message) > > 3) What the user needs to do (notify people and services that send > emails to their openoffice.org address and ask them to update their > address books and records with the new address) > > 4) Where to go for more informaiton/questions (maybe ooo-users?) > > If we can get that written up, perhaps with some translations, then we > can get the message out via: > > 1 Apache and legacy OOo mailing lists > 2. website home page (both AOOo and OOo) > 3. Facebook, Twitter, Google+ > > This is similar to what we are doing with the mailing list migration. > It is low tech, easy to roll out. > > =3D=3DPlan 2=3D=3D > > Bulk notification of all 500,000 forwarding accounts that the service > is going away. =C2=A0Same information as above, including translations, b= ut > pushed to users. =C2=A0This approach would require Oracle to send the > notifications. =C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm am not certain this is feasible. It is not; it is also not correct to presume that all members of OOo (more than 500K, probably) would even know what you are talking about. I would argue for plan 1 and further have a bulletin posted to OOo (this can be done) alerting people of it. It would also give me the chance then to announce the closure of OOo, and its new life as a new thing for old people like me (and young-uns, too). cheers, louis > > > =3D=3DPlan 3=3D=3D > > Like Plan 2, but if Oracle is not able to send bulk notifications. =C2=A0= We > could extract addresses from public sources, including Bugzilla, > legacy OOo mailing lists, etc., and send these notices ourselves. > > =3D=3DPlan 4=3D=3D > > Another solution would be to take advantage of the period of time when > the mail forwarding service is still working to notify users. =C2=A0For > example, take the following scenario: > > a@foo,com sends an email to b@openoffice.org, which is then forwarded > to b@bar.com > > Until the email forwarder goes down, we insert an extra step to cause > an additional email to be sent to b@bar.com, letting them know that > the forwarding service will be going down. =C2=A0This is a way to notify > all active users of the forwarding service. > > Any ideas for other approaches? =C2=A0Any volunteers to work on any of > these approaches? > > Regards, > > -Rob >