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From: eric b <eric.bachard@free.fr>
Subject: Re: [AOO 3.4 Test Plan Discussion]Overview
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:01:03 +0100
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Hi J=C3=BCrgen,

Le 23 nov. 11 =C3=A0 11:30, J=C3=BCrgen Schmidt a =C3=A9crit :
>>
>> The current step is :
>>
>> - IP clearance (not completed if I'm not wrong)
>> - fix build issues and see what disasters caused the removing of
>> important tools, like dmake and some other.
>
> yes and every helping hand is very much appreciated. I would really =20=

> like to see more people working on this
>
>>
>> Next one will probably be :
>>
>> - consolidate the build (on every OS)
> what do you mean here
>

Currently, code is removed, and every commit, we are not sure the =20
build can finish. I'd consider this as undefined / chaotic state, =20
that we need to consolidate.


>> - optimize configure command line
> again, can you explain what exactly do you mean


The configure command line uses to differ from one OS to another. For =20=

a given OS, we need to define one "default" configure command line, =20
saying how to build the Official Apache OpenOffice.org, and =20
reproduce, as precisely as possible the same build (never possible, I =20=

know).

This is the sense  of "optimized" I have in mind.


>> - optimize build dependencies for every OS
>> - find and welcome newcomers, and builders on every OS
> should be an ongoing effort
>


I think we have several volunteers around, indeed  :-)


>
>>
>> As volunteer, I remember I stopped to commit any cws and to =20
>> contribute
>> directly to OpenOffice.org, because of excessive, stupid and =20
>> boring QA.
> well that's your personal view

Yes, it is.


> that i can't share and that we hopefully will not follow here.
>

No problem.

At the end of Oracle OpenOffice.org time, I remember 20% max of the =20
my devel time was learn the bug or the feature, write code and commit =20=

it. And 80% of it was QA stuff,or whatever I didn't care, like click =20
the right blocking checkbox / button on EIS, being blocked, or redo =20
several times the same fail with bots, because the bot was broken, or =20=

being blocked by other OS, not concerned by the cws itself :-) , or =20
something similar.

I think we should trash that, but I can perfectly understand people =20
disagree my point of view  :-)


Regards,
Eric

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