Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 303FD7E80 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 15:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55774 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2011 15:27:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55715 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2011 15:27:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55707 invoked by uid 99); 9 Nov 2011 15:27:20 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:27:20 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dave2wave@comcast.net designates 76.96.62.16 as permitted sender) Received: from [76.96.62.16] (HELO qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.16) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:27:10 +0000 Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id v3HT1h0051HzFnQ513Sq4j; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:26:50 +0000 Received: from [192.168.102.40] ([207.34.158.233]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id v3Sh1h01N52RdUn3a3SkDq; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:26:48 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [Request] create ooo-discuss@incubator.apache.org mailing list From: Dave Fisher In-Reply-To: <4EB9B1B8.405@shanecurcuru.org> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:26:40 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <57A440CC-0E68-4A26-9B8D-70622FA1E4F1@comcast.net> References: <3FF5E704-E0B7-4AE7-9B23-FAE3C948A1CB@free.fr> <4EB9B1B8.405@shanecurcuru.org> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Nov 8, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > As a mentor, I have two comments: >=20 > - When requesting a new mailing list, it is critical to clearly define = the focus and expected community that would use a list. In particular, = showing specific threads on other lists that would be better moved to = the new list is helpful to give others a detailed explanation of the = kinds of things a new list proposer would expect to see on the new list. >=20 > Creating new email lists is simple technically, but should be = approached with caution in terms of the effects of splitting community = energy. >=20 > - I highly recommend that people view through the slides for the = well-respected "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People" set = of slides: >=20 > = https://sites.google.com/site/io/how-open-source-projects-survive-poisonou= s-people >=20 > The talk is worth watching, but for those short on time the slides are = worth reading. In particular, the aspects about how communities of many = different kinds of people (the vast majority who are not poisonous, by = the way!) can effectively work together on public mailing lists. A key = slide is pp 5, and pp7 as a followup: >=20 > "Attention and Focus > These are your scarcest resources > You must protect them" The hour spent watching this will be worth hours in reclaimed time and = productivity! Thanks, Dave >=20 > - Shane