Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04B1B90BB for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79693 invoked by uid 500); 14 Nov 2011 15:58:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79650 invoked by uid 500); 14 Nov 2011 15:58:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79641 invoked by uid 99); 14 Nov 2011 15:58:26 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:58:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO [10.1.1.9]) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username hdu, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:58:26 +0000 Message-ID: <4EC13AA0.40901@apache.org> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:58:24 +0100 From: Herbert Duerr User-Agent: generic MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Font related questions References: <1321285556.22542.YahooMailClassic@web113504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1321285556.22542.YahooMailClassic@web113504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 14.11.2011 16:45, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > --- On Mon, 11/14/11, Herbert Duerr wrote: > ... >>> >>> I think he fixed the metric files to better work with >> the Arial Narrow >>> font. >> >> I extended the Liberation Sans font family with Narrow font >> faces and contributed these changes upstream. >> >>> But still, he will be sad, that they have to go. >> >> Not only me, but everyone who is using documents with it or >> its metrically compatible counterpart. These documents or >> their text boxes tend to overflow and this often looks >> nasty. > > I might've got it wrong, but I understand "liberation" > fonts are actually replacements for fonts that are already > installed on Windows. MS-Windows users don't need them The narrow font faces are not installed with the plain system, they get usually installed with certain productivity suites. > and linux/BSD users have them preinstalled. Yes, we can add them as a dependency or a recommendation. >> Maybe I should look into basing some new Narrow font faces >> on a font family that has a license acceptable for bundling >> them as binaries in an Apache release (e.g. OFL?) > > Unfortunately really good fonts are all commercial. For finding a good looking sans serif font that is usable as a base for a metrically compatible set of narrow faces there are a couple of good candidates. E.g. the DejaVu fonts were considered once and IIRC the metrically compatible narrow font faces based on them looked quite nice. Herbert