Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E042729A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25489 invoked by uid 500); 2 Nov 2011 00:46:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25453 invoked by uid 500); 2 Nov 2011 00:46:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25445 invoked by uid 99); 2 Nov 2011 00:46:27 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:46:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [212.227.17.8] (HELO moutng.kundenserver.de) (212.227.17.8) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:46:19 +0000 Received: from kulungile.erack.de (d107168.adsl.hansenet.de [80.171.107.168]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Md4Bm-1RdcIu2AD4-00IEhn; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:45:58 +0100 Received: from erack by kulungile.erack.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RLOxp-0006lc-JX for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:45:57 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:45:57 +0100 From: Eike Rathke To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Ohloh Message-ID: <20111102004557.GB25645@kulungile.erack.de> Mail-Followup-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org References: <20111030182353.GB17063@kulungile.erack.de> <4EADA35E.1060801@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Accept-Language: de,en X-Nickname: erAck User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:i6rjfSuGLBM0iCOOy5pAqhx5pTYB+o/NN1PrrBMLHi6 5I8FB4/wSBWmVCCxF8XqmRgErNOQ3NZDDZa0G4mt9+A2vYlSlr nova+9as85BK3Z+dyr2k8imMVPg9304bdqOqUmXWCUusQlRQyX OIDf1bCyGEsaJQOCgPjPdLbBti64wHuUJuLEHzIPxeTyYxYAwE Sn2bN0RHr4qOfnw12LX9W6kLuNsVYA8vBHbhs7U0vnmmS3u2E4 rfSLdN9VciPWvI3Qb++jgtg2rfUPcPDotKAynurD7d6IOs7RaP Etp0KWtXgfZ+g/cca3rIncgpfDw4zEc0Aq2Jx8R0+9LJ8ISiH7 WKH1BNn/kUkNxu3Yg3zInhG136OANFYeEDMF2NsU9 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Michael, On Sunday, 2011-10-30 21:12:58 +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: > > As most of them were tracked as commits from our former release > > engineers and so are misleading anyway, perhaps its not such a big loss= =2E :-) >=20 > indeed, because of the CVS and SVN approach to merge tracking authorship > was not properly recorded for the most part of OOo history, so the loss is > not big. >=20 > but still, apparently Eike disagrees with that; it would have been nice to > ask first before making this change. I don't care much, Ohloh's statistics aren't worth a penny and as you said Ohloh itself fouled up at times by not having been able to track CVS or SVN branches and thus omitted more than 10000 of just my own commits.. commits of developers not release engineers were recorded only after the move to Mercurial again. I just found it strange to discover that history has been rewritten. > at least the historic data is still available at the LO project, the > history there still begins with Heiner's initial CVS import: > https://www.ohloh.net/p/libreoffice/ >=20 > the change seems especially pointless since there already was an Apache > OOo project at Ohloh: https://www.ohloh.net/p/apacheoffice/ Which is why I didn't understand the move. > it seems to me that there is some kind of counting error at the new > OpenOffice.org project: a comparison with AOOo shows that it counts every > commit twice. Seems to be fixed. > also, another deficiency of most SCM systems that makes Ohloh statistics > unreliable is that they only track the committer, but not the author of a > commit, which is not necessarily the same person (git gets this right). The odds are 50/50 that also Ohloh gets that right for git.. > hmm, now Ohloh claims that i am the #1 contributor to OpenOffice.org, how > ridiculous is that... We're superseded by pfg now ;-) Eike --=20 PGP/OpenPGP/GnuPG encrypted mail preferred in all private communication. Key ID: 0x293C05FD - 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk6wksUACgkQFbLmO4lpmVpjmQCfaUBzPX3dOVQes6TvHdEIsPlo JhIAnjMGf82vfIs94ybh5u4yf1fbO6V1 =yoci -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj--