Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5149E9C95 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 35513 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2011 19:36:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 35464 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2011 19:36:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 35456 invoked by uid 99); 18 Nov 2011 19:36:21 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:36:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.139.91.73] (HELO nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (98.139.91.73) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:36:10 +0000 Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2011 19:35:48 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.58] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2011 19:35:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2011 19:35:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 220876.81221.bm@omp1058.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 14726 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2011 19:35:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1321644947; bh=aUniRSCriepRLWPQWmv4IF2CiibjzNtQznh+OU2LMzg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5BE08j3kZ1fdhkayM+JAO5sPFBjbItR3R5psVwkPOurq26aTQQZuO4ufA7slwqTYKAul4qJMm8HE4CEUAuIZTW2ioNrcaIUPISfEdQTJSaqI0OyXzAyHjN3Pm2qch+FCal5xa1QqYbpixpmcqiOrqjmqTWuWFsKM+qGNZ1Ludyc= X-YMail-OSG: q_FOjAcVM1n02fVoY6kkS15T_dOaF_idDphU7WCe56Rid0x oZZNrMButbkgAAtzYouV6r.O.fxOMfkq2S_YhYrO9tEJzZB8ziopyzp8FvvB pkU.S4x7aNbLWXU6piCa82vr7QH4yefyjTdqaZJ796KIXOJ.i9GnYmwBB_C0 XidzycoueDLPU.dZpNVZupfib7bNqI4bTDS.816SCDUHn0b1cPFNmYJJFYgE w3wzUFK.CY6OArcMUfNbht8NN2cA.N2V9OyWLPvbFfuNZ9B6jkk0suLNEPcn Rmuwv_4zEQZ0C84ugisTq5L0zOQwZjvrQ7DXIZyzbIE3A8vsljOHuFr7E5tf ySlA6YdhzjulXfBeFNlOfiNTjWOB9JvnE8nPs_kXqJkR_lIndRSJlNhthYAb xMdDitOuuilgwyiOueuvinDEbIRh2VPfZy4LPYGAtr_8y3u5MZHTUSk5ykkS wO4vu8OF_g2K6d_Ooqvw0hBAD Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:35:47 PST X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 Message-ID: <1321644947.165.YahooMailClassic@web113511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:35:47 -0800 (PST) From: Pedro Giffuni Reply-To: pfg@apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Licensed Fonts (was Re: Font related questions) To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi;=0A=0A--- On Fri, 11/18/11, Rob Weir wrote:=0A=0A> = Pedro Giffuni wrote:=0A> > Hi;=0A> >=0A> > OFL has two big issues:=0A> > 1)= It's copyleft so we cannot put it in the=0A> repository.=0A> > 2) It canno= t be redistributed on it's own: it has=0A> > to be bundled with software, s= o we cannot make it=0A> > available as and add-on package by itself.=0A> >= =0A> =0A> I don't see the problem here.=A0 It says, "Neither the=0A> Font S= oftware nor=0A> any of its individual components, in Original or Modified= =0A> Versions,=0A> may be sold by itself."=A0 But we're not selling the=0A>= font in any form, bundled or not.=0A> =0A=0AStill that is a limitation and= I am not sure it fits=0Awithin ASF policies. The code produced by the ASF = can=0Abe resold and users expect to be able to unbundle and=0Arebundle as t= hey see fit.=0A=0A> Why can't we just download it as part of the build=0A> = script?=A0 It is not=0A> in SVN then, and we only include it in the binary = release?=0A>=0A=0AI think we can do this, yes.=0A =0A> This looks acceptabl= e per: (1)=0A> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#no-modification=0A= > =0A> > The bitstream vera / dejavu fonts are not without=0A> issues:=0A> = > " ... no copy of one or more of the Font Software=0A> typefaces=0A> > =A0= may be sold by itself."=0A> >=0A> =0A> Again, we are not selling it "by its= elf".=0A>=0A=0AI think the "no-sell" clause contradicts the=0A"Software Lic= ense Criteria".=0A=0ABut I am not in the business of being a PITA for=0Athe= project, I just think this has to be reviewed=0Aby legal.=0A=0AWhile here = a general question: do we have to mention=0A"Category-B" software in the NO= TICE file?=0AI say we shouldn't since we are not including any=0Asource cod= e for that in in the SVN server or in=0Athe releases, we will just use the = binaries if=0Athey are available.=0A=0APedro.=0A=0APedro.