Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5755A790A for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 02:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31434 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2011 02:01:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31392 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2011 02:01:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31384 invoked by uid 99); 8 Nov 2011 02:01:20 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:01:20 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.138.229.53] (HELO nm32-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.229.53) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:01:10 +0000 Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2011 02:00:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.236] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2011 02:00:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2011 02:00:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 835193.1248.bm@omp1036.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 59751 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2011 02:00:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1320717649; bh=OuQARwjrN5P3WXJaUm10kE43yX0/UP+0PaXiVNE25kQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mbiAFtzZhy6tL9gjgwS389HXV9mb356aeR97TS25gVSJdqsXdHxNLYAhphnAVvco12GYWWT2H+XSrp4AH+BLpQDhuL0Lp/cHOC3pyTkKbKZwz5HoCo1ntSv0rVRk5WxZGgIMdej/cc8TenvNcFO+ifLE4q1X/V3Iw/niWR5frJA= X-YMail-OSG: 7n9ZONwVM1mIL6Jq_cvgOYXW7lr07GqoR5GulVzm0uQ5mn_ P45C0USyy.x9x_NH94yfOCUNOnYZ_9FPPDknIgVI9VF7OAIBdM6qqJ2nblgJ KZlLQIA1VFUE5XYcrgaPY41.Ulb19TQQ6VdT5bYVAU8zjcZni7kBSgxehQBU 3p_4tF4gi7G9ZMdPMMqM98HRUrv5FMlTvKPbubDnw1Z6.3T81k5HFJGH2GGB Mlch_bCyp7O7slXLx1z0iPHrFvfrj27dmHEJTuZQkBBIyFu6sixrUYiCdrmk 6gG7PveXqNF3xZXkEtXOou8FbwInI88FBt6CGjhRqdeVvCfezHMWCHgF.ACY xo5QMcshkdyaZ3kwlziahbLSfQFdt2na8jX5ozmmh1P22z7aTSOly3xZUzDO MkD.itJmyd2L19q0Sr4GI1xRbNDT4OECA_fPA2bBltr2kbDdsszCYwW0HPju gUMTEh43nVt.v1K0vYvlbt8bU9MYo0V4CbuWeLaZtMOv6.wzjvaKZ8H9R.AV YPrtqY_uKykH32N2do9oIz9D3GtBU.08nDnkcMdRkM4yLAILEbpyEs3Wc2wp XZ3joUpgZa.vwHgyuJeH_ql9n2MgWhkgsnQ3NIFpSrziyp5pPRQ-- Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:00:49 PST X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.11 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 Message-ID: <1320717649.59072.YahooMailClassic@web113508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 18:00:49 -0800 (PST) From: Pedro Giffuni Reply-To: pfg@apache.org Subject: Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?) To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: <20111108012556.GB7399@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- On Mon, 11/7/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > Hi *, > > > On the long run I think the Apache-Way means we give > > prevalence to freedom over features so we either move > > back to MySpell > > it has already been said that MySpell is a step backward > It is, but can't we have both MySpell and HunSpell? It is good to have alternatives. > > or we do something completely new based > > on Apache openNLP. > > "we" means here "software developers in the know of this > topic", and > I don't read much names of those in this thread. I mean, > someone with > the knowledge has to sit and write code. So why starting > something new > from scratch when we already have something that works, and > fits > "The Apache Way"? > It's just an idea but IBM uses something like this: http://incubator.apache.org/opennlp/ This is only an idea for the future, as I said for 3.4 we go HunSpell and I can see that for a while we will be busy on other things. > > Look at the folders: > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/hunspell/ > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/mythes/ > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/hyphen/ > > there are only patches and makefiles, no copyleft source. > AOOo can keep Hunspell based linguistic components, there > is no need to remove anything, it is already IP-clean. I know, I know.. but why download tarballs when you can use: --with-system-hunspell --with-system-mythes (Which is also used by LibreOffice AFAICT) > The situation is almost the same as before. > The only issue is the Italian dictionary, which is GPL-only and we can't include at all. Now let's be realistic: we don't develop dictionaries here in AOOo (that I know of) and due to license issues our repositories and source distributions can't carry them anyway. Why not build all of them in apache-Extras or wherever and link them there for users? As you say, things don't change too much at all. Pedro.