Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93B939A70 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76000 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2011 20:02:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 75964 invoked by uid 500); 18 Nov 2011 20:02:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 75956 invoked by uid 99); 18 Nov 2011 20:02:48 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:02:48 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 75.98.160.130 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.98.160.130] (HELO a2s15.a2hosting.com) (75.98.160.130) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:02:40 +0000 Received: from 63-226-210-225.tukw.qwest.net ([63.226.210.225] helo=Astraendo) by a2s15.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RRUdf-0005wn-Lb for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:02:19 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: References: <2F0A9A5E-AFB7-4899-8070-276CBAF7A4E8@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <2F0A9A5E-AFB7-4899-8070-276CBAF7A4E8@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [WWW][Policy] Participate! - Rewriting contributing.openoffice.org Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:02:26 -0800 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <01f901cca62c$ff42ee10$fdc8ca30$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIx4Gb0V5mNf4deNcBsXpe+q/Pu5QHZP5cfAW6ubs8Ca+J2BQJrgxAblKeckpA= Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s15.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org +1 on podling pages. =20 Good catch. =20 I think maybe contributing.openoffice.org should go away. If it = redirects, it should be to an i.a.o page, but nuking it might be best of = all. =20 The places where there are links to it need to be renamed for = Contributing to Apache OpenOffice, unless it is better to link some to a = wiki page that links to the many OO.o-peer projects that would enjoy = contributors. I'm for that on the OpenOffice.org domain. =20 - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]=20 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 11:41 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [WWW][Policy] Participate! - Rewriting = contributing.openoffice.org [ ... ] The subdomain and OOo / Collabnet / Kenai project is contributing. = contributing.openoffice.org can have a permanent redirection wherever we = decide. We can reduce all links to the old site to the index of the new = Participate Page(s). The c.oo.o site currently has the following categories. Programming Marketing Quality Assurance Graphics and Art Writing Helping Users User Experience Monetary Donations Language Communities I think most of the categories should be kept. There is also a guideline. This should be replaced with an introduction = to the Apache Way. There should be concrete examples of how users can = find a ways to participate in the project within each category. Programming ooo-dev, svn, builds, ... Marketing ooo-marketing, ... Quality Assurance Bugzilla, ... Graphics and Art Logos, icons, fonts, skins, ... Writing Apache CMS, ODFAuthors, api docs, ... Helping Users ooo-users, Forums User Experience ? Monetary Donations ASF donations and sponsorship links. Language Communities Language Packs, N-L communities, what to do to add support for a = language to AOO. NL Mailing lists, NL Forums. Apache Software Foundation The Apache Way, Project Governance, ... The more I think about this the more I think these are podling pages. Regards, Dave >=20 >>=20 >>> 2) The new page has a simple couple of paragraphs. We welcome >>> volunteers of all sorts. These are the functional areas where we = need >>> help (taken from those already listed). If you want more = information >>> you can browser our project website (the podling site) here, or = send >>> a note to our project list at ooo-dev.i.a.o. >>>=20 >>=20 >> OK, in this sense, perhaps the existing contributing.html can be used = with >> changes. >> Again, I'm confused about your initial distinctions I guess. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>>=20 >>> I would not advise them to subscribe initially. Depending on what >>> they are interested in we might point them to a specific list >>> (ooo-marketing) or to the forums. I think the full ooo-dev list can >>> be overwhelming for newbies. >>>=20 >>> With this approach, the PPMC would be responsible for following up = on >>> these incoming volunteer notices and helping to orient the new >>> volunteers. In a sense we would become mini-mentors. >>>=20 >>> As for the fundraising link, I don't know where to put that. I >>> certainly would not expect to see it behind a "I want to = participate" >>> link. Maybe a new tab labeled "Contribute" and then have that link = to >>> the relevant Apache page? >>>=20 >>> -Rob >>>=20 >>>> The reason I suggest doing the work on the podling site is due to = hidden >>> overhead when using the Apache CMS Bookmarklet. Each user does a = complete >>> checkout of a site's tree. The podling site is small and the = ooo-site is >>> very huge. Using the podling site will be much more satisfying for >>> volunteers. >>>>=20 >>>> HTH, but I also have a full time job... >>>>=20 >>>> Regards, >>>> Dave >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------- >> MzK >>=20 >> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged >> by the way its animals are treated." >> -- Mohandas Gandhi >>=20