Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C3237BC4 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54296 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2011 17:25:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 54238 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2011 17:25:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 54230 invoked by uid 99); 29 Nov 2011 17:25:40 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:25:40 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 75.98.160.130 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.98.160.130] (HELO a2s15.a2hosting.com) (75.98.160.130) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:25:32 +0000 Received: from 63-226-210-225.tukw.qwest.net ([63.226.210.225] helo=Astraendo) by a2s15.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVRQc-00037z-1Q; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:25:10 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: , References: <1322585118.82876.YahooMailClassic@web113518.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1322585118.82876.YahooMailClassic@web113518.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Neutral / shared security list ... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 09:25:11 -0800 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <00bd01ccaebb$d9ffa930$8dfefb90$@acm.org> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Index: AQGqNeUcwW3zyTK0IvaGM5oKGYs3u5YJCIdg Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=SHA1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B9_01CCAE78.C90665D0" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s15.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01CCAE78.C90665D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a small clarification. I don't think forwarding from an ooo domain is being discussed. I think Michael and Rob were talking about subscribing an @i.a.o list or other @i.o subscribers to the officesecurity@ list. That's different. That means officesecurity@ would forward to the i.a.o list and/or have direct a.o subscribers, not the other way around. I have no idea how this impacts securityteam@ OO.o. It originally had non-Apache subscribers and I presume that it still does. I haven't been following how that is proposed to be handled as part of the OpenOffice.org migration. That is for-sure a matter for the AOO project and the PPMC. - Dennis PS: ooo-private-subscribe@ incubator.apache.org. Our operators are standing by. -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:pfg@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 08:45 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Neutral / shared security list ... Hello guys; --- On Tue, 11/29/11, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Michael, > > While some might have hoped for another proposal and > discussion prior to action, thank you for going ahead where > there was clearly no consensus for specific action on the > AOO side. > As I see it, this list is not official. The AOO PPMC has no influence whatever over it, but that is precisely the type of "neutrality" the involved actors wanted. I think it's OK, building bridges is always good. Just a thought here concerning as to how far this involves the Apache podling. Of course, Apache PPMC members can join any lists they like without asking permission to the PPMC, but any decision concerning forwarding email from an OOo domain has to go through the PPMC. I would think the principles in the recent ASF policy statement regarding forwarding email from openoffice.org domains would apply to private lists too. Just something to think about; I am not a PPMC member (I am considering it, though) and I never had an OpenOffice.org domain so you can say I am extremely neutral in this matter ;). 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