Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4383A7BC6 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18047 invoked by uid 500); 27 Nov 2011 23:55:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18005 invoked by uid 500); 27 Nov 2011 23:55:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 17993 invoked by uid 99); 27 Nov 2011 23:55:33 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:55:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 75.98.160.130 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.98.160.130] (HELO a2s15.a2hosting.com) (75.98.160.130) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:55:25 +0000 Received: from 63-226-210-225.tukw.qwest.net ([63.226.210.225] helo=Astraendo) by a2s15.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RUoYq-0004Fz-5c for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:55:04 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: References: <1af7c52e-6898-4d95-975f-3dafc2e64720@zimbra60-e10.priv.proxad.net> <2d629cb8-8188-4cd1-98b9-b3db9e461aaf@zimbra60-e10.priv.proxad.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [Discuss] Wiki licence Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:55:02 -0800 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <000d01ccad5f$fb7af720$f270e560$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFFvQ+SYiIFIHybcd+6nRtqHfCfBwKVGLpbAWiaguaWr1Dp0A== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s15.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org There have been proposals for providing terms of use for the Apache = hosting that also honor what the incoming agreements were for = already-existing material. It has also been said that all that is = needed is to apply an Apache ALv2 notice. That's problematic for = material contributed under other conditions, especially with specific = copyright and license notices. =20 It has been suggested that the PPMC needed to decide what it wanted and = then ask legal@ what could be had. I know of no action taken on that = suggestion though. Now might be a good time. It was also recommended (over at legal-discuss@) that Oracle terms = should not appear on an ASF-hosted property. That has not been = implemented. One place that has a specific discussion is this Bugzilla issue, which = proposes a constant ToU for all of the OpenOffice.org web properties = hosted by the ASF: This document is annotated to show the changes and how the current = contributions are still covered. There's a lot of room for discussion, = although some of the questions can only be answered by legal@. It is also important to have a privacy statement, although I don't know = if the ASF is interested in adhering to the US-EU Safe Harbor = arrangement for Data Protection and Privacy. Oracle did and that = applied by reference in the Oracle ToU. There also needs to be an = explicit contact for take-down notices. There has been limited legal-discuss@ on this, although there is a = companion issue there, LEGAL-104, with considerable comment discussion: = . - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]=20 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 15:02 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Discuss] Wiki licence On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:45 AM, FR web forum wrote: > Hello, > > French users would be ready to publish on the Wiki. But which licence = apply? > This page is empty: = http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Wiki:Copyrights > IMHO, we should be requiring Apache 2.0 on all new wiki contributions. It puzzles me that this is not yet reflected in the terms of use. -Rob > Regards >