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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Discuss] Wiki licence
Date Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:07:37 GMT
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
> There have been proposals for providing terms of use for the Apache hosting that also
honor what the incoming agreements were for already-existing material.  It has also been
said that all that is needed is to apply an Apache ALv2 notice.  That's problematic for material
contributed under other conditions, especially with specific copyright and license notices.
>

It seems like a no-brainer to put a statement in there *now* that says
new content is contributed under Apache 2.0.  It might take longer to
figure out privacy policy and other notices.  But that shouldn't
prevent us from stating the obvious, especially when we receive a note
that says there are people waiting to contribute *now*.  We can always
supplement with additional clauses to the ToU as they are reviewed,
etc.

Remember, what we have now is a wiki with zero statement on copyright
or license.  That is not helping anyone.

> It has been suggested that the PPMC needed to decide what it wanted and then ask legal@
what could be had.  I know of no action taken on that suggestion though.  Now might be a
good time.
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> It was also recommended (over at legal-discuss@) that Oracle terms should not appear
on an ASF-hosted property.  That has not been implemented.
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> One place that has a specific discussion is this Bugzilla issue, which proposes a constant
ToU for all of the OpenOffice.org web properties hosted by the ASF:
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> <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118518>
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> This document is annotated to show the changes and how the current contributions are
still covered.  There's a lot of room for discussion, although some of the questions can
only be answered by legal@.
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> It is also important to have a privacy statement, although I don't know if the ASF is
interested in adhering to the US-EU Safe Harbor arrangement for Data Protection and Privacy.
 Oracle did and that applied by reference in the Oracle ToU.  There also needs to be an
explicit contact for take-down notices.
>
> There has been limited legal-discuss@ on this, although there is a companion issue there,
LEGAL-104, with considerable comment discussion: <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-104>.
>

These are all interesting questions.  But I don't think we need this
to be a bottleneck in order to make it clear that new contributions
are under ALv2.  This would clear the way for the French users who are
ready to contribute now.

-Rob

>  - Dennis
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 15:02
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Discuss] Wiki licence
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:45 AM, FR web forum <oooforum@free.fr> wrote:
>> Hello,
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>> French users would be ready to publish on the Wiki. But which licence apply?
>> This page is empty: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Wiki:Copyrights
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> IMHO, we should be requiring Apache 2.0 on all new wiki contributions.
>  It puzzles me that this is not yet reflected in the terms of use.
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> -Rob
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>> Regards
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