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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: oooforum.org
Date Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:08:43 GMT
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
> I suspect Louis was talking about the OpenOffice.org Community Forums that are already
hosted on Apache.
>

The thread is titled "oooforum.org".  That's what we're talking about
about.  If you think you are talking about something else, then maybe
start a new thread.

> Since oooforums has never been hosted by Sun/Oracle, it is a bit dicey how some sort
of merger might happen and why.
>

I listed the reasons why this could be a good idea.  Since
oooforum.org is also running phBB, the technical side of a merger does
not seem beyond the realm of possibility.

> On the other hand, neither OO.o Community and oooforums have a German Language forum.
 That is at http://www.oooforum.de aka de.OpenOffice.info.  OpenOffice.info also has a wiki
and other European language coverage too (Danish and Czech seem to be operating and not covered
by OO.o Community Forums).
>
> Some degree of informal Federation and cross-communication might be possible.  Consolidation
seems rather premature and such an offer might even be viewed as hostile.
>

I assuming we would not be talking to idiots.  Offering to work
together should even be taken as a hostile action.  It is entirely
pro-community and pro-user.

-Rob

>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 05:45
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: oooforum.org
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts
> <lsuarezpotts@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Let's take this then as an opportunity? Clayton C used to be the admin
>> for the forums  (oooforums) but with Oracle's departure—he was with
>> Oracle and still may be—there was, to put it mildly, a hitch.
>>
>
> I certainly see an opportunity here.  This is one example of somethng
> I see in many other parts of the project: We'll all be far more
> successful if we but aside ancient grudges and divisions and try to
> work together at Apache.  We need to acknowledge that the past is past
> and we have a new opportunity now to grow a community that is more
> diverse and more open than ever before.
>
>
>> The OO forums are immensely important. They are mainly for users but
>> not only, though that's clearly their primary user base. They are
>> furthermore pretty much user-initiated, and thus arguably could be
>> administered by capable community members.
>>
>> Was the infrastructure also ported over to Apache? Or will it be?
>>
>
> I don't see the benefits of having two different forum installations
> at Apache.  But is there anyway we could combine efforts toward a
> single forum at Apache?
>
> I think we could argue that a combined effort would:
>
> 1) Attract more users
>
> 2) Attract more volunteers to answer questions
>
> 3) Attract more moderators and admins to ensure the quality of the
> user experience
>
> 4) Would grow a larger infobase of questions and answers
>
> 5) Would eliminate redundant effort
>
>> If it will be, and if we want to continue with it, I can ask if
>> Clayton would help with the transition, and even maintenance. It's
>> possible he may be interested in working with some others.
>>
>
> It would be worth having a conversation about how he sees the world,
> and whether he thinks it is worth while to explore the possibilities.
>
>> What we need here, and I would like to issue a call for this to the
>> logical lists and other public fora ("twitter" comes to mind), is a
>> list (and list of lists) of things that are needed, wanted, and
>> actionable.
>>
>
> Maybe start with just opening the conversation, to see whether he is
> receptive to further discussions. If we work it too much on our side
> first, that may be seen as us dictating terms.  But if we start with,
> "We'd like to chat about the current situation with two forums and how
> we might best improve things for the benefit our our mutual users",
> this might be more attractive.
>
> -Rob
>
>> Right now, lots needs doing but those who can do don't know they can
>> do it, or for that matter where, and using what tools. Not all of
>> those able and inclined read these lists.
>>
>> -louis
>>
>
>

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