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From Tim Williams <>
Subject Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?
Date Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:30:18 GMT
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Dave Fisher <> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
>> On 2011-11-16 3:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>> Hi Martin;
>>> --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> On 11/16/11 6:33 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>>> On 16 November 2011 16:56, Martin Hollmichel
>>>>> <>
>>>> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> What kind of a "release" are you talking about. OOo
>>>>> releases can only be made from the Apache Software
>>>>> Foundation. Perhaps you are planning a downstream
>>>>> release that conforms to our trademark policy.
>>>>> Please let us know your plans.
>>>> we're offering to provide an interim release of
>>>> 3.3.1 with a joint messaging of ASF and Team
>>>> This would fill the gap between the 3.3.0
>>>> release from beginning of this year (with some known severe
>>>> issues) and the first AOO release in the future. I'm
>>>> convinced that this proceeding will help strengthen the
>>>> trust in / AOO.
>> Based on the very little bit of information provided here on the Apache lists, I
can't see how your plans would possibly be approved by the ASF.
>> Obviously, having more information about your plans, and being able to see your work
in the form of patches or commits to the AOO podling's Subversion tree would be a great start
to be able to do this kind of work.
>> So my first suggestion is to start doing some of the actual coding work here, on
the ooo-dev@ list.  Then, work with the podling to show the PPMC that this is a good idea,
and deserves to proceed together with the excellent progress the PPMC is making on the 3.4
>> Then, if the PPMC has a clear consensus to work with such an interim release plan,
we can discuss any trademark, legal, or press/messaging questions you might have.
> What is difficult for me to understand is that both Stefan Taxhet and Martin Hollmichel
signed up as Initial
> Committers to the Apache project, but have never signed an iCLA.

What makes you think that?  See:


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