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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ e-mail addresses
Date Sat, 05 Nov 2011 18:17:54 GMT

On Nov 5, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
> <> wrote:
>> So, this exceptionalism for "friends for Rob" is being offered, without consideration
at all for those friends of who have relied on those e-mail forwardings and
proudly organized their e-mail existence around that affiliation.  This smells a bit like (or whatever the domain is) dropping all of those graduates who fail to sustain
some sort of annual gift level.
>> Why can't the focus be on achieving the best possible result for all of those folks?
> I'm looking for what's best for the project, Dennis.  If someone was
> using an address for reporting defects to the project,
> and the only way to contact them is through that address, then the
> project benefits if we can ensure our ability to contact them.  if
> they were using their address for other things,
> unrelated to the project, then that is not our concern.  AOOo is not
> the ISP to the world.
> In any case, I suggest we pick a drop dead date, say in 2 weeks time.
> If no one has come up with a better plan at that point, then we go
> ahead with notifications via the addresses that are publicly
> available, via BZ, etc., as well as prominent notifications on the
> website and mailing list.  We should risk dropping all of the users
> without notification, and at very short notice,  if we do nothing but
> hold out for the unlikely perfect solution.  The perfect is the enemy
> of the good, etc.

I'm not sure if Apache James[1] is a possible platform for this email forwarder, but anyone
attending Apachecon might consider the "Fast Feather" session Wednesday - 4 mailbox technologies
with James mail server 3.0 - with Eric Charles[2]

Oh and something really cool that merits another thread - if you go to the James site click
on the "Call For Logo" tab! It has an interactive way of presenting and previewing logo choices.
They plan to vote on submitted choices.



>>  - Dennis
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rob Weir []
>> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 08:40
>> To:;
>> Subject: Re: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ e-mail addresses
>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Uwe Altmann <> wrote:
>>> Hi Rob
>>> Am 05.11.11 16:18, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>> We don't even need Oracle for this.  You can see which ID's are active
>>>> in project work by doing reports in Bugzilla....
>>> Could you please refrain from the idea that someone who does actually
>>> not post bug reports is not active at all in the Project? I thought
>>> Apache (the people there of course) had learned this lesson in the meantime.
>>> --
>> That is just an example. We also know the addresses of who has edited
>> the wiki, and is posting to the mailing lists, for example.  But if
>> you think you are active without interacting with the project at all,
>> then I would beg to disagree.
>> -Rob
>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>>> Uwe Altmann

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