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From TJ Frazier <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS]+[VOTE] Trademark and Branding
Date Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:22:05 GMT
Hi, Rory,

On 11/17/2011 13:47, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:07:37 -0500
> Rob Weir<>  wrote:
>> My point was that these volunteers, by not posting on ooo-dev,
>> shut themselves out of the debate.  They are grumbling about
>> their votes not counting.  I think they should be more
>> concerned about their views not being heard because their
>> self-imposed exclusion from the larger project discussions on
>> ooo-dev.  A vote is just a vote.  It is worth little.   But
>> having a well-argued point of view posted in the right place,
>> that is worth much.
> I think at this stage there is little point in discussion about
> what has happened.  The result is sufficiently decisive on either
> the overall votes or the PPMC votes that it can now be referred
> to Apache legal and trademarking for a decision, either on the
> main choice, or if this proves unacceptable for some legal reason,
> a clear alternative.
If we were a well-established and long-functioning group, I would agree 
with you 100% about excessive postmortems. But, we aren't. This sort of 
thing is both necessary and informative – as long as we don't create a 
thread longer than the [VOTE]! ;-)


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