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From Andre Fischer>
Subject Re: Anybody interested in TestTool? I wrote a Java lib to replace it.
Date Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:38:54 GMT
Hi Liu,

On 16.11.2011 09:16, Zhe Liu wrote:
> Thank Raphael Bircher for the comment.
> I used VCLTesttool several times and found that it's difficult to debug
> and understand what's being done by scripts. Maybe because I don't know
> Basic and the tool enough well. :-). I admit that VCLTestTool and these
> large amounts of test scripts are very valuable and worth reusing.
> Anyway, a chance to implement GUI testing using Java may attract more
> people to contribute test scripts.

It would certainly attract me.  When working for Sun/Oracle I had the, 
ahm, pleasure to work with the VCL Testtool a couple of times (usually 
the colleagues from QA shielded us developers from it, but some bugs 
required us using the test tool directly.)

Understanding the Basic code was never easy.  The differences between 
C++ and Basic are just too big. So a Java solution would be very welcome.

Just my 2 cents.


> The lib has been used to test Lotus
> Symphony for long time. I will contribute it ASAP after my company
> approve it.
> Inactive hide details for Raphael Bircher ---11/16/2011 03:22:28 PM---Hi
> LiuRaphael Bircher ---11/16/2011 03:22:28 PM---Hi Liu
> From:	
> Raphael Bircher <>
> To:	
> Date:	
> 11/16/2011 03:22 PM
> Subject:	
> Re: Anybody interested in TestTool? I wrote a Java lib to replace it.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Liu
> Am 16.11.11 03:29, schrieb Zhe Liu:
>  >
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > Vcl TestTool is used by GUI automated testing for, but it
>  > has many drawbacks. Too many errors, difficult to debug, maintain and
>  > execute parallelly. I found many people mentioned this problem.
> Libreoffice
>  > has abondoned the tool. But I think GUI automated testing still is
>  > valuable. It can test the product more like the actual users.
> The problems with the VCLTestTool are well known. But to write a new one
> is not trivial too. It needs a load of work to bring a new tool to the
> productiv use. Well, we can maybe use the old testscripts as guide for
> new testscripts. But the VCLTestTool as is works fine, and you can find
> errors realy quick. Mainly not working dialoges, crashs and freese.
> VCLTestTool is not so buggy as many people say. But yes, it needs
> aditional work to bring it to a productive tool for the community.
>  > I has been working for long time on automated testing in Symphony
> project.
>  > I wrote a Java lib which can connect to the automation (automation module
>  > in source code) server in openoffice process and do GUI automated
> testing.
>  > The lib can be integrated with JUnit or other Java testing framework.
>  > Anybody interested in the lib? I can contribute it to community.
>  > Suggestion is welcome.
> Yes, please contribut it. We can only compare your jave lib with the
> VCLTestTool if we have the lib. It most not be finishd, but we can only
> discouss her, if we see the things.
> Well, I'm more interested in core development, but I'm willing to bring
> my QA experience in to the community. So I'm still interested in
> automated testing. And Yes, I also think that automated tests are
> important in a project like Apache
>  > PS, I am a newbie here. :-)
> You are welcome
> Greetings Raphael
> --
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