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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses
Date Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:47:52 GMT
Personally what I'm thinking is that for the immediate
future we collect a list of forwarding aliases from Oracle
and use them solely for maintaining the bugzilla messaging.
IOW we'd provide no means for people to change their address,
and it would only continue to work when receiving mail from
the issue tracker.  After a period of maybe 6 months to a year
we could retire that alias map entirely.




>________________________________
>From: Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 1:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses
>
>On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orcmid@apache.org> wrote:
>> Unfortunately, those are not just vanity addresses, they are part of a
>> single-signon system that was introduced across the http:// *.openoffice.org
>> web properties.  I had no idea that orcmid@openoffice.org was mine (or I
>> quickly forgot) when I registered on the site too many years ago.  I didn't
>> realize its significance until I needed that e-mail address to reregister on
>> the re-hosted bugzilla, restoring my connection to those particular issues
>> that were mine, and the particular issues that I am CC:-ed on.
>>
>
>So worst case you create a new BZ account with a different email
>address.  So what?  We don't lose your old issues.  You can still find
>your old issues.  How have you personally been harmed?
>
>-Rob
>
>> It is easy to dispense with the consequences as if it is merely the
>> abandonment of a vanity forwarding service.  And even that has consequences
>> for openoffice.org as an enduring community institution.
>>
>>  - Dennis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:apache@robweir.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:22
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orcmid@apache.org> wrote:
>>> There are problems concerning migration of yourname@ openoffice.org,
>>> listname@
>>> openoffice.org, and servicename@ openoffice.org.  Consequently, all
>>> yourname@
>>> openoffice.org addresses will be shut down when the migration goes into its
>>> final stages sometime in November.
>>>
>>> I don't have a solution.  I have an appraisal of the issue.  It is something
>>> that requires mutual understanding and, out of our mutual attention, the
>>> prospect of a workable solution.
>>>
>>
>> Dealing with the servicename@openoffice.org addresses is relatively
>> easy to handle.  Since we generally control the underlying service we
>> can simply change the service (or the wiki or website if these are
>> human-generated enails) to send notifications to one of our existing
>> lists.  We are doing that, for example with the BZ notifications.
>>
>> yourname@openoffice.org -- I don't think providing free lifetime
>> personal email forwarding services to non project members is part of
>> the core mission for this project or ASF.  A Gmail account is free for
>> the asking.  And if someone really wants a project-related vanity
>> address, then apache.org is available to all committers.  But I do not
>> accept any obligation for this project to fix a situation caused by
>> bad choices and decisions by those in the past.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
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