Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 116A29780 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3100 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2011 17:58:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3048 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2011 17:58:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3040 invoked by uid 99); 25 Oct 2011 17:58:17 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:58:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-vx0-f175.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:58:17 +0000 Received: by vcbf1 with SMTP id f1so748135vcb.6 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:58:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.90.45 with SMTP id bt13mr28593656vdb.25.1319565496595; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.95.132 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:58:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0ECD6081-A7CF-4E6E-83AA-A2ECE9E395D9@comcast.net> References: <0ECD6081-A7CF-4E6E-83AA-A2ECE9E395D9@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:58:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Draft mailing list notification post From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > I wonder if this is too technically detailed. > > Since the recipient is a ML user that impact should be noted near the top= . > > The information about what the ASF / podling process is all about should = be at the end. > The feedback we received when we sent an earlier list migration note to the users and discuss list, after we initially set up ooo-users, was along the lines of "Who the hell are you and why is this the first we are hearing about the migration?". That is why I put the introductory ASF stuff at the top, to put it in context. Of course, doing that could lead people to ignore the note, thinking there is nothing important in it. So that's why I started by saying the note was important. But I realize that that itself could increase the chance of the email being ignored, since emails that say they are important rarely are. So how can we have both an good intro as well as get a high response rate? Maybe split this into two emails, and space them a week apart? So one email that is the intro, gives the background on the Incubation, the migration effort, etc. Short and sweet. They might actually read it. Then follow a week later with "As we previously mentioned in our note last week.... We're starting the list migration now. To join the new list you will need to...." Would that be better? > Information here to go to find out about AOOo release plans would be help= ful. A wiki page with updates. > We have a release plan? I suppose we can put a placeholder page. > A link to the ooo blog. > Good idea. Maybe also include on every post a link to the ooo-dev and ooo-users lists, since those are our main ones. -Rob > On Oct 25, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On the wiki here: >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Email+Migration+Pos= t >> >> Feel free to make changes directly on the wiki, or suggest them as >> responses to this note. =C2=A0I don't think we want to overburden the >> reader with a recitation of migration facts, but instead motivate them >> to take the desired actions. =C2=A0But since this will be for many the >> first note they officially receive from the PPMC, it should probably >> have some introductory information, and a welcome and invitation to >> get involved (stay involved) with the project. >> >> -Rob > >