Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C607E7A9C for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10685 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2011 16:58:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 10643 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2011 16:58:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 10635 invoked by uid 99); 18 Oct 2011 16:58:27 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:58:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ianrlynch@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.175] (HELO mail-gy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.160.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:58:22 +0000 Received: by gyc15 with SMTP id 15so762195gyc.6 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:58:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CVvWHYJLiS2tCFqCLQx+Pez/ESZPN1W8c+7DUrzSHac=; b=VedvwB2lTMz2lsmaKtr2ovfKN0ZYsj4oQON5+zo6WX7/MXzq9wEZLrOuKz4IlZvr7n 9JxAkQJ3g0ZiLcR5vTOaivzbC2gzfhURhplBxqF7V7fGwNaU7y+cWaWeolYG68lgJ0e7 uA3BV52JDiPsbzaxE3V8808Ixt3YIGN7rVAKs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.63.206 with SMTP id c14mr5160263fai.7.1318957081504; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.103.11 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:58:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000e01cc8db4$6944d490$3bce7db0$@acm.org> References: <4E9CBBA8.2080408@apache.org> <4E9DA6B5.5030104@gmail.com> <000e01cc8db4$6944d490$3bce7db0$@acm.org> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:58:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org From: Ian Lynch To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, dennis.hamilton@acm.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517402e0a512ce004af95a00f --001517402e0a512ce004af95a00f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 18 October 2011 17:38, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > +1 to Kay's perspective > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.schenk@gmail.com] > < > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201110.mbox/%3c4E9DA6B5.5030104@gmail.com%3e > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 09:18 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org > > [ ... ] > > Consider this-- > > We ahd agreed to keep the "user facing" web site for Apache OpenOffice.org > > as www.openoffice.org > > its current DNS name > > -- and, as Dennis pointed out, despite the common use of OpenOffice in > speech, openoffice.org is THE recognizable entity and reference in all > printed communication. In previous discussion, it's been repeatedly > pointed out, that in terms of what's already been developed for "the > brand" -- see the Marketing Project materials at > http://marketing.openoffice.org/ > > a change is HUGE headache. > On that we all agree, but putting it off isn't necessarily going to make it less of a headache! Couple that with recent information about the Apache podling -- > OpenOffice.org -- and I truly feel that a re-branding/trademarking *at > this stage of development* would not be good, and could potentially be > harmful in terms of identification. > Perhaps so but a strategy for rebranding that is clear and transparent to everyone is rather different from just saying let's not do anything until AOO is ready for release. Shane has suggested the PPMC should deal with this -- fine. And Rob has > suggested the new marketing head (team) should deal with it -- maybe > also fine. Maybe a nice compromise would let the "marketing area" > suggest something to the PPMC. > But apparently it is not normal to define "heads" in the Apache Way, so perhaps this thread is the marketing area suggesting something to the PPMC ;-) At least suggesting we need to talk it through and come up with a reasonable solution well in advance of being forced to do something in a hurry. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. --001517402e0a512ce004af95a00f--