Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A16AA9ECE for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3935 invoked by uid 500); 23 Oct 2011 13:56:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3885 invoked by uid 500); 23 Oct 2011 13:56:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3874 invoked by uid 99); 23 Oct 2011 13:56:57 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:56:57 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.175] (HELO mail-gx0-f175.google.com) (209.85.161.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:56:49 +0000 Received: by ggnj1 with SMTP id j1so3410472ggn.6 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 06:56:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8+AmdTb0HPbdO9d6OeIb142DT9bt4bZ2WWX7TkjtkoE=; b=BOKekcTNve5lXuyhneR73rwlxw6/lhAb1fX6oet9pTH7iOxv1egUmL5xtp+j7G83Dp 2BeoyW8eg7rAbdw0sa5H7TuxNQSRvyXfc7LiitsehbZMwdpPxSAghrX6qMvmKcQe5ii0 s28w7Bt9trB7H0HTRTgKdq0+ZiBXXqIS9wjpI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.124.97 with SMTP id w61mr29445399yhh.106.1319378188980; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 06:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.44.99 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 06:56:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:56:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Clarification on treatment of "weak copyleft" components From: Robert Burrell Donkin To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> There is no intent to hoard. =A0From talking to developers on this >>> project I get the sense that they want to upstream patches more than >>> was done previously. =A0But contributing a patch is no guarantee that i= t >>> will be integrated by the other project in a timely manner. =A0Simply >>> having it checked in by the 3rd party component, but not yet in their >>> release, is also not optimal, for stability and supportability >>> reasons. =A0Release schedules don't always sync up. >> >> Downstream packagers face similar issues and typically cope by >> maintaining independent patch sets (applied at build time). Why not >> just use patch sets? >> > > That is what we do. =A0We store the original source in a tarball and > then apply a patch at build time. =A0But we store both the source > tarball and the patch on our servers. Dependency managers frequently used elsewhere at Apache[1] typically use meta-data to describe dependencies for location. Does the current build system work in a similar way? Robert [1] eg http://ant.apache.org/ivy/ and http://maven.apache.org/