Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D8B3935D for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 94988 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2011 15:05:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 94935 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2011 15:05:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 94927 invoked by uid 99); 25 Oct 2011 15:05:42 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:05:42 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of martin.hollmichel@googlemail.com designates 209.85.215.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.175] (HELO mail-ey0-f175.google.com) (209.85.215.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:05:34 +0000 Received: by eyd9 with SMTP id 9so570163eyd.6 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:05:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zJc9nipG4ptCIoDOVLDyvHtyjVZV8k6+Qo1NpXXH8Bs=; b=LStXe9LNAEDE8oWOCyc63mVNh97pHr2qETp5yM8ZrLR1F0dWoLraX1Pv4lqI/Jkv2g K/uRviXwBuOgE49G4TL5qNGHrUyPOWineKksB+vNT/GA4WQUncsKQIVEBWluG+rNyM7H o59LVgxsOg8n1CyN8XxZg5qGLYQdfPmcxmst0= Received: by 10.14.2.2 with SMTP id 2mr3533410eee.123.1319555114550; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.37.72.147] ([217.110.125.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 54sm38639524eex.8.2011.10.25.08.05.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EA6D054.10704@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:05:56 +0200 From: Martin Hollmichel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Neutral / shared security list ... References: <1319037389.83728.YahooMailMobile@web113502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <34F3347E-B725-4C74-893F-2928417C448C@comcast.net> <8B104105-0BA2-4CBD-A2BF-C9BC28698CE0@webmink.com> <4D617A26-D7D8-4D3A-B771-77078FE9E00C@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi all, If both parties (ASF, TDF) agree, I could imagine that team openoffice is willing to provide funds for an independent location, but at the same time I'm wondering whether such neutral zone is wanted and makes sense ? What I really don't like to see is a third location for OpenOffice.org gets established, that would not be the right sign, Martin Am 25.10.2011 13:03, schrieb Simon Phipps: > On 25 Oct 2011, at 02:55, Dave Fisher wrote: > >> I tried to be ambiguous with fork/"downstream". There is a relationship, and whether it originates as a fork, upstream, downstream, or upside-down relationship the relationship *IS* a *PEER* relationship. (auf Deutsch, ist klar?) > :-) I just want to make clear that, listening to both sides of this issue, it is very easy (on both sides) for people to use language that is unintentionally inflammatory and then treat the other party as at fault when they react to it... > >> So, this could be a true point of co-operation, there was a thread about this and it did have some good ideas. >> >> Extensions and especially templates are likely to compatible. > This isn't a given. By the time AOOo makes an end-user release, there are likely to be substantial differences and a shared add-ons repo would probably need to distinguish strongly between the two projects. Still worth considering though, I agree. > >> Given the licensing issues with Apache hosting it does make more sense for the TDF to host these. > TDF won't host closed extensions though, so the combined (TDF + Apache) repo would still hold less than the current repo. > >> No technical reasons why the openoffice.org DNS for these couldn't point to servers hosted by the TDF. > Maybe this is a compromise solution for the security list too? make it coordination@security.openoffice.org and point the MX at a TDF server? > > S. >