Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FAA492D1 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 96421 invoked by uid 500); 19 Oct 2011 15:41:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96329 invoked by uid 500); 19 Oct 2011 15:41:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96239 invoked by uid 99); 19 Oct 2011 15:41:33 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:41:33 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.208.4.194] (HELO mout.perfora.net) (74.208.4.194) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:41:24 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] (216-15-112-83.c3-0.arl-ubr1.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com [216.15.112.83]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MJziv-1RFimZ0uTV-001MQZ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:41:03 -0400 Message-ID: <4E9EEF8B.4020105@shanecurcuru.org> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:40:59 -0400 From: Shane Curcuru User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Neutral / shared security list ... References: <1319037389.83728.YahooMailMobile@web113502.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:fqNbqAB2/T+m4PdKspgcNNFNeB82LgkNPAEyfQPYoUv TesSpU2ZAZLzvKoCQDir3XUYIgLJLfn99N/Y7EcIrTuTKaQMzh hdx428frm51+TTnsn6NzVEQfFF8RV1u+lbaNiqzA4iIyS2QYdr dQwEHFvITbwRD7T70se7HdMMKfe4m2JWK65wp4dL/B66wZNVHP aARL1zODIGcCYlfxa5aU0yGXYHjC/fr1Jn7tydBuVIwMJ6LZzD NDJF7kAA1viqfC75Tu2Vt6Mp3Hb7ZhLa682RjKCJnJNSCpR/H6 R+SFqbB05/eJS7EO+nRQFpC23DTrb5tjBGP3W3gj0pXyM4IXX4 4uKKu6IS42A1s4/tH35bqX8upzV9e4lCW5uBuviT0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 10/19/2011 11:28 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> -1 >> The Apache Foundation *IS* neutral. >> Beyond the evident open wounds the previous relationship with SUN/Oracle >> may have left in the community, the OpenOffice.org domain is the natural >> reference for longtime users and the developers of the many forks. >> > > I agree, but the problem is one not of the neutrality of the trademark owner > but rather the practical neutrality of the administration of the shared > list. Is the project happy for the list administration to be shared with > others outside Apache? > > If so (and if it actually happened!) I would share your vote and re-iterate > my earlier proposal that securityteam@openoffice.org be used. > > S. I'm confident that the Apache security team and specific members of AOOo PPMC could arrange a suitable adminstration structure to satisfy any reputable security-minded contributor in the OOo world. While some of us may have significant differences elsewhere, I hope (and presume) that we all take security seriously enough to do it correctly. And given that the existing s@oo.o email address is already plastered over archives and search results and millions of user's existing installs, keeping the same email address is a huge bonus in terms of capturing security issues from less technical end-users. In terms of reliability, that should not be an issue once we are hosting the mailing lists at the ASF and the Apache infra team has full access to maintain the lists up to the same standards as our other lists. - Shane