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From Christian Grobmeier <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Review of Forums Agreement
Date Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:06:09 GMT
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <> wrote:
>> The Draft Proposal for governance and operation of the Forums
>> within the Apache Podling is available on the Apache OO.o
>> Community Wiki at
>> <>.
>> The Draft Proposal is the work of the Forums operators, with
>> consultation of Apache contributors.
>> It is proposed to discuss this proposal for at least 6 days starting now,
>> Tuesday 2011-10-11, and ending at midnight Monday, 2011-10-17T24:00Z.
> "It is proposed" ???  Could you be more explicit?  Your passive voice
> is obscuring things.  Are the forum people asking for these proposal
> to be reviewed now?

Please read the proposal and discuss from now until the mentioned
date. The discuss period will be extended when necessary. It is always
good to have some kind of a deadline. If the period does not need
extension there will be a vote on that date (see paragraph below).

And yes, the forum people are asking to look at this proposal now and discuss.

This is the outcome of many hours, much sweat and many people
speaking. Thanks to the forum folks for all the work and the patience
with their "observers" :-)


>> Once discussion of the Draft Proposal has quieted by that time or later,
>> discussion can stop.  If it is then evident that a ratifying ballot on
>> acceptance of the Draft Proposal by the Apache OO.o Podling can be held, a
>> separate [VOTE] will be initiated on the ooo-dev list for that purpose.
>> Ratification of the Draft Proposal will establish the commitment of the Apache
>> OO.o Podling to implementation of the proposal and honoring its provisions for
>> governance of the Forums as part of the Apache OO.o Podling.
>> The Draft Proposal represents the current thinking of the
>> Forums operators.  PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE DRAFT PROPOSAL page.
>> Instead, discuss suggestions and modifications on this list and await any
>> changes to be made as the Forum operators choose to offer
>> improvements in response to the discussion, including based on ooo-dev
>> suggestions of their own.
>> When it is concluded that the Draft Proposal is in a final condition suitable
>> for ratification, the Forum operators will notify us of their
>> readiness (repeatedly if there is still ongoing discussion and improvement).
>>  - Dennis


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