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From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Review of Forums Agreement
Date Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:11:16 GMT
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Christian Grobmeier
<> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <> wrote:
>>> The Draft Proposal for governance and operation of the Forums
>>> within the Apache Podling is available on the Apache OO.o
>>> Community Wiki at
>>> <>.
>>> The Draft Proposal is the work of the Forums operators, with
>>> consultation of Apache contributors.
>>> It is proposed to discuss this proposal for at least 6 days starting now,
>>> Tuesday 2011-10-11, and ending at midnight Monday, 2011-10-17T24:00Z.
>> "It is proposed" ???  Could you be more explicit?  Your passive voice
>> is obscuring things.  Are the forum people asking for these proposal
>> to be reviewed now?
> Please read the proposal and discuss from now until the mentioned
> date. The discuss period will be extended when necessary. It is always
> good to have some kind of a deadline. If the period does not need
> extension there will be a vote on that date (see paragraph below).
> And yes, the forum people are asking to look at this proposal now and discuss.

OK.  That's what I wanted to hear.  We've had false starts on this
before.  I expected the forum proposal to come from a forum admin or
moderator, not fro Dennis.  But that's fine.

> This is the outcome of many hours, much sweat and many people
> speaking. Thanks to the forum folks for all the work and the patience
> with their "observers" :-)
> Cheers
> Christian
>>> Once discussion of the Draft Proposal has quieted by that time or later,
>>> discussion can stop.  If it is then evident that a ratifying ballot on
>>> acceptance of the Draft Proposal by the Apache OO.o Podling can be held, a
>>> separate [VOTE] will be initiated on the ooo-dev list for that purpose.
>>> Ratification of the Draft Proposal will establish the commitment of the Apache
>>> OO.o Podling to implementation of the proposal and honoring its provisions for
>>> governance of the Forums as part of the Apache OO.o Podling.
>>> The Draft Proposal represents the current thinking of the
>>> Forums operators.  PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE DRAFT PROPOSAL page.
>>> Instead, discuss suggestions and modifications on this list and await any
>>> changes to be made as the Forum operators choose to offer
>>> improvements in response to the discussion, including based on ooo-dev
>>> suggestions of their own.
>>> When it is concluded that the Draft Proposal is in a final condition suitable
>>> for ratification, the Forum operators will notify us of their
>>> readiness (repeatedly if there is still ongoing discussion and improvement).
>>>  - Dennis
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