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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?
Date Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:36:03 GMT
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler
>>>> <rgardler@opendirective.com> wrote:
>>>>> One of the comments on the Foundation blog is:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the last 6 months:
>>>>> http://hg.services.openoffice.org/DEV300"
>>>>>
>>>>> It is perfectly understandable why someone would make this mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we please do something about the old Mercury servers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we should be redirecting common legacy URLs to their new
>>>> counterpoints rather than simply closing or deleting things.
>>>> Otherwise someone, like the commenter, will not just think the code
>>>> has not been touched in 6 months.  They will think that the code is
>>>> unavailable entirely.  The issue is external links into the project,
>>>> including links from the Google search index.  You deal with that with
>>>> HTTP redirection.
>>>
>>> Not an option until we have control of the DNS.
>>>
>>
>> Exactly.  Once that happens, we could do something like redirect all
>> requests to */openoffice.org/* addresses back to existing Oracle
>> servers, except for specific URL's that we redirect to Apache pages.
>> As we migrate things we redirect more and more to Apache.  We may have
>> dozens of such redirection defined.
>>
>> What is required to make this happen, at least the first step where
>> Apache gets the initial HTTP requests and does the redirects to the
>> existing servers?  Do we need anything from Oracle?
>
> There was am email on ooo-private from Joe.
>
> Essentially. Apache Infra has to create the zone file for openoffice.org, the domain
registrations need to be transferred and then Apache's authoritative servers take over the
DNS.
>
> This is the INFRA-3898 ticket.
>
> BTW - Shane sent a large set of additional domains that we should review. He did this
about 6 weeks ago (IIRC)
>

I'd keep it simple to start.  Have all HTTP(S) traffic come to Apache
first and then get redirected.  Have the mail stuff go to Oracle's
servers for now.  Then set up a lightweight process where the PPMC can
change the redirects.  We can start redirect stuff almost immediately,
and build on that day-today.  But if every redirect additional takes
an Infra JIRA issue, and a delay, then that approach would not work.
We'd need to sit down and map things out more explicitly, up front,
the specific URL's and patterns.

But I do think we need some agility here.

-Rob

> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>> Ross
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>>>>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>>>>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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