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From Donald Harbison <dpharbi...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Is there an org chart of the previous OOo governance(s)?
Date Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:34:23 GMT
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2011/10/13 J├╝rgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@googlemail.com>

> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Donald Harbison <dpharbison@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Well, you can take a look at http://projects.openoffice.org/ ...and see
> > the
> > structure of work division by project and the names of people who were
> > associated with those projects in the past.
> >
> > There was an Engineering Steering Committee (ESC) where the Sun developer
> > staff met with volunteers, but it was largely a Sun/Oracle led affair.
> See:
> > http://council.openoffice.org/esc/
> > "The responsibility of the ESC is as follows:
> >
> >   - Provide advice on technical implementations in case of conflicting
> >   interests.
> >
> > It is not the forum for making technical decisions in general, this
> remains
> > in the responsibility of the project leads.
> >
> >   -
> >
> >   Their advice can be overruled by the Community Council."
> >
> > Since all the project leads were Sun/Oracle employees, the ESC was
> intended
> > to take input, but not necessarily follow it.
> >
> > TDF evolved it to look like:
> >
> >
> http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/23/the-document-foundation-announces-the-members-of-the-engineering-steering-committee/
> >
> >
> > The Community Council charter is here:
> > http://council.openoffice.org/councilcharter12.html ...
> >
> > Juergen Schmidt may be able to provide more insight here when he can
> catch
> > up to the list as he was a member of the CC.
> >
> >
> i don't really want to comment on this because of my history. The general
> idea and intention of the CC was good but in practise in was never able to
> operate or run in the way it should. So let us focus on finding our own new
> way...
>
> I am sure that over time we will find a way that is Apache conform and that
> will reflect the way how we work here. Some kind of governance will
> establish automatically in different areas. We will trust people who have
> shown expertise in development and code questions, the same for people who
> focus on documentation, on marketing, QA etc. We will simply trust lets
> call
> it working groups and will correct things if necessary or something fails.
>
>
> Juergen
>
>
>
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What's the best place to (quickly) learn just who was who and what
> groups
> > > did what in the previous OOo life at Oracle?
> > >
> > > I see things like Community council and Engineering steering council
> and
> > > lots of projects, but it's not clear yet how they were supposed to be
> > > related or helped to manage each other.
> > >
> > > It might be helpful to work on some simple explanations/diagrams of how
> > OOo
> > > used to work, and then show how the new Apache OOo is working.
> > >
> > > I don't really think this will help. We have the project wiki
> established
> > with a proposed structure. What we haven't done so well is to produce a
> > 'Welcome, start here' FAQ and so forth. Dennis offered the first blog
> entry
> > on that way back in July.
> >
> > I will offer to update that as soon as I get my credentials to Roller
> from
> > infra.
> >
> > /don
> >
> >
> > > - Shane
> > >
> >
>

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