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From Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com>
Subject Re: Neutral / shared security list ...
Date Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:08:56 GMT
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Simon Phipps <simon@webmink.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Agreed. We need to pick a neutral domain name. office-security.org is
> >> apparently free.
> >>
> >> Some institution needs to buy domain registration. I've been the
> volunteer
> >> registrar for a social groups domain, it is a pain to transition. This
> needs
> >> to be an institution, it could be Team OOo?
> >>
> >
> > I think they are too close to the matter.  SPI exists specifically to
> hold
> > assets in trust - perhaps they would hold the registration for us all?
>  If
> > we agree I'd be happy to volunteer to contact them.
> >
>
> At Apache we make proposals and seek lazy consensus, typically 72
> hours.  I see nothing urgent here that would make us bypass that part
> of our decision making process.
>

Is this addressed to me or to someone else, Rob? I haven't seen anyone
suggesting any process be bypassed, so I am very confused by this statement.


>
> I look forward to reading the specifics of your proposal.  I've made mine.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > It's also possible we could ask OSI to do it - Jim Jagielski and I are
> both
> > on the Board at present.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> An ISP for hosting the private ML needs to be selected. Dennis suggests
> >> that the ASF could be that ISP for free. Could the TDF be the ISP? Isn't
> >> that for you to say? I agree it is not the main issue.
> >>
> >> securityteam@oo.o is migrated to whatever the new list is, and those
> >> people start administrating.
> >>
> >> I think it is very important for the public to know who all of the
> projects
> >> are on the shared ML.
> >>
> >> Are we done already :-)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> >
> >> > That is fair to anyone, does not exclude anyone, does not benefit one
> >> > over the other -- it's easy, simple, and the best way to go. Sure,
> >> > everyone can create own aliases pointing to that list, but the core is
> >> > the same, and that's what matters.
> >> >
> >> > If you folks now start complaining about we don't trust Apache, we can
> >> > answer by complaining you don't trust TDF and so on. It's a horrible
> >> > waste of time, it's lame, it does not help anyone, and it makes me
> doubt
> >> > we're talking amongst adults, seriously.
> >> >
> >> > And, really, all this crap being tossed around about trustworthiness,
> >> > upstream, downstream, code similarities and insults is worth not even
> >> > the digital paper it's written on.
> >> >
> >> > I made a simple, plain, and easy proposal. Don't make things overly
> >> > complicated, folks.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for considering,
> >> > Florian
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Florian Effenberger <floeff@documentfoundation.org>
> >> > Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Simon Phipps
> > +1 415 683 7660 : www.webmink.com
> >
>



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