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From "Manfred A. Reiter" <>
Subject Re: Neutral / shared security list ...
Date Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:32:10 GMT
Am 27.10.2011 02:55, schrieb Peter Junge:
> <strong>I totally agree with Florian.</strong> Please stop this "cold 
> war" fought with pointless rhetoric.


> On 10/25/2011 11:56 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>> Hello,
>> it is really amazing how much hot air can be produced for such a topic.
>> Folks, it's rather easy. After the recent discussions and the history of
>> this topic, it becomes obvious, that neutral grounds are important.
>> Neutral grounds mean:
>> - no domain name related to Apache, OOo, TDF or LibO
>> - no hosting at one of these entities
>> - members of the list from both parties (and of course other third
>> parties that make sense)
>> - admins of the list from both parties
>> I'd also avoid any of the German associations, either directly or via
>> donations, since stakeholders at both projects are in their respective
>> boards, which might raise concerns towards neutrality.
>> What's so complicated to understand here? We can bury ourselves with
>> senselessly quoting bullshit from dictionaries, wikipedia or a
>> philospher of our choice, or finally start working on things.
>> A concrete proposal:
>> - We can use either,
>> - or in case this is seen as non-neutral as it hosts also a few TDF
>> lists (not all), go for SourceForge.
>> - I am also happy to ask a friend of mine who is in the business of mail
>> server consultancy, to host that list under a neutral domain name. He
>> hosts various lists for free projects. In case that's not neutral enough
>> as he's a friend, I know none of the admins at SourceForge.
>> So, is there any *compelling* reason not to try out one of these three
>> options?
>> Florian

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