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From Peter Junge <>
Subject Re: Neutral / shared security list ...
Date Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:55:45 GMT
<strong>I totally agree with Florian.</strong> Please stop this "cold 
war" fought with pointless rhetoric.

On 10/25/2011 11:56 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello,
> it is really amazing how much hot air can be produced for such a topic.
> Folks, it's rather easy. After the recent discussions and the history of
> this topic, it becomes obvious, that neutral grounds are important.
> Neutral grounds mean:
> - no domain name related to Apache, OOo, TDF or LibO
> - no hosting at one of these entities
> - members of the list from both parties (and of course other third
> parties that make sense)
> - admins of the list from both parties
> I'd also avoid any of the German associations, either directly or via
> donations, since stakeholders at both projects are in their respective
> boards, which might raise concerns towards neutrality.
> What's so complicated to understand here? We can bury ourselves with
> senselessly quoting bullshit from dictionaries, wikipedia or a
> philospher of our choice, or finally start working on things.
> A concrete proposal:
> - We can use either,
> - or in case this is seen as non-neutral as it hosts also a few TDF
> lists (not all), go for SourceForge.
> - I am also happy to ask a friend of mine who is in the business of mail
> server consultancy, to host that list under a neutral domain name. He
> hosts various lists for free projects. In case that's not neutral enough
> as he's a friend, I know none of the admins at SourceForge.
> So, is there any *compelling* reason not to try out one of these three
> options?
> Florian

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