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From Florian Effenberger <>
Subject Re: Neutral / shared security list ...
Date Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:56:29 GMT

it is really amazing how much hot air can be produced for such a topic.

Folks, it's rather easy. After the recent discussions and the history of 
this topic, it becomes obvious, that neutral grounds are important.

Neutral grounds mean:
- no domain name related to Apache, OOo, TDF or LibO
- no hosting at one of these entities
- members of the list from both parties (and of course other third 
parties that make sense)
- admins of the list from both parties

I'd also avoid any of the German associations, either directly or via 
donations, since stakeholders at both projects are in their respective 
boards, which might raise concerns towards neutrality.

What's so complicated to understand here? We can bury ourselves with 
senselessly quoting bullshit from dictionaries, wikipedia or a 
philospher of our choice, or finally start working on things.

A concrete proposal:
- We can use either,
- or in case this is seen as non-neutral as it hosts also a few TDF 
lists (not all), go for SourceForge.
- I am also happy to ask a friend of mine who is in the business of mail 
server consultancy, to host that list under a neutral domain name. He 
hosts various lists for free projects. In case that's not neutral enough 
as he's a friend, I know none of the admins at SourceForge.

So, is there any *compelling* reason not to try out one of these three 


Florian Effenberger <>
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