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From Kay Schenk <>
Subject Re: Disposition of *.services.oo.o
Date Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:54:34 GMT

Thanks for answering my questions and the update on all this!

Great that you're on top of all this! :)

On 10/21/2011 04:37 PM, TJ Frazier wrote:
> On 10/21/2011 18:48, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> On 10/21/2011 01:31 PM, TJ Frazier wrote:
>>> Dave,
>>> I want to be very sure about this, because I can and will post the
>>> notices on the live wiki ...
>>> On 10/21/2011 14:35, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> I had a conversation with Andrew Rist this morning. Here is what I
>>>> have found out about what will happen in one week.
>>>> (1) Forums and Mediawiki will be cloned and moved to Apache
>>>> Infrastructure on top of the work that TerryE and the Apache Infra
>>>> team accomplished. Andrew, Gavin and TJ will be doing the heavy
>>>> lifting starting with some practice conversions.
>>> I read this to mean that Infra has devised a way to support the live MW
>>> wiki satisfactorily. YEA!! from me, too. Well done, guys. I will post
>>> the outage notices Kay recommends as soon as I can, after confirmation.
>>> I have posted a "Salvage Plan" at
>>> but this is much better.
>> I think what you've got here looks good as much as I know about MW,
>> which isn't much.
>> Q1: WILL user accounts be migrated or will folks need to re-sign?
> There is no technical reason for needing to re-sign. In the absence of
> direction from the PPMC, they won't need to.
> When Terry created the test copy, he included a step to scramble the
> existing passwords, thus making the wiki copy effectively read-only.
> There is no technical need for this.
>> Q2: If folks re-use existing user names, can they, in fact, get to the
>> same info as before with the same rights? In other words, are the
>> administrative aspects part of the "load" or must this be done some
>> other way?
> Briefly, yes. The admin rights are part of the load. As a "bureaucrat"
> (wiki role) I can add or delete rights for anybody. I would expect to
> get some direction from the PPMC on this, but I am assuming that the
> ranks of administrators ("sysops" in popular parlance) and bureaucrats
> should be winnowed of non-active members, which is most of them.
> In theory, the PPMC could tell me to add a couple of new bureaucrats,
> remove my own rights, and go back to being an ordinary user. Which I
> could and would do, though I would recommend against it. --/tj/
>>>> Does Apache Infra plan to change dns resolution of
>>>> and to point to the ooo-forum.a.o and ooo-wiki.a.o
>>>> domain names as of this transition?
>>>> (2) goes away this needs attention. This is
>>>> the major unknown.
>>>> We do have a version of this page in the website migration. It is
>>>> rather clean. I think the page handles a missing mirror brain, but I
>>>> don't know if it handles it well. The version that was cleaned up is
>>>> in the AOOo project svn in ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/.
>>>> (3) and are hosted at
>>>> OSUOSL and will be retained. They still need work on Drupal upgrades,
>>>> the OSUOSL admins have turned their noisy Nagios checks off and we
>>>> have to report outages to ourselves. They are
>>>> usually responsive by the business day AM in US Pacific Time Zone.
>>>> (4) All other *.services.oo.o are going away. If any of these are
>>>> important to you please recall that Andrew Rist has mentioned that he
>>>> does have a backup of everything. Please contact him about other
>>>> services, if you would like to resurrect them.
>>>> (5) Some consideration will need to be made about changes needed to
>>>> the Kenai based due to the services change.
>>>> These topics can't wait, but I don't have any more bandwidth for AOOo
>>>> until Sunday night or Monday.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave


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