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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster
Date Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:49:10 GMT


On 10/14/2011 03:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I think this is a wonderful idea and I would like to add an additional item
>> -- can we get a list of folks who have submitted iCLAs toward this project,
>> assuming they've filled in the "notify project" item?
>>
>> Another great mystery that might be nice to have unveiled.
>>
>
> When someone submits an iCLA, and after it has been processed by the
> Apache Secretary, then their name shows up here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#unlistedclas
>
> Note that this is not specific to AOOo.

ok, but thanks just the same.

>
> There is an optional "notify project" field in the iCLA.  If the
> person enters that, then ooo-private receives a note when the iCLA is
> filed.  We saw that a few days ago for Andre Fischer.
>
> -Rob
>
>> and yep, I tried to get a list of subscribers to "dev" and no go for me. :(
>>
>> On 10/10/2011 08:03 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> <orcmid note="more comments inline">
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 06:10
>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton<orcmid@apache.org>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <orcmid note="Responses to Rob's questions in-line" />
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 17:48
>>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton<orcmid@apache.org>
>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [ ... ]
>>>
>>>> 1) What page will contain this information?
>>>> <orcmid>
>>>>   I have no preference.  It could be on the AOOo web site.  It could be on
>>>> the
>>>>   current podling incubator status page,
>>>>   at<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html>
>>>> </orcmid>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I like the idea of using the podling's status page, since we need to
>>> update that page in any case when a new committer comes on board.
>>>
>>> <orcmid>
>>>     I concur.  A separate comment indicates that this is the practice
>>>     for other projects, and it is the ideal case.  It is also possible
>>>     for us to maintain that page with some degree of automation.
>>> </orcmid>
>>>
>>>> 2) Is updating the page a manual or automated process?
>>>> <orcmid>
>>>>   It would have to be semi-manual, I think.  There is an automated
>>>>   list of ooo-private subscribers, but not everyone on that list is
>>>>   on the PPMC.  I also have a list that identifies everyone on the
>>>>   PPMC that I update as part of the committer/PPMC intake workflow.
>>>>   The spreadsheet with that list is in a private-to-the-PPMC SVN
>>>>   repository area.
>>>> </orcmid>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I thought only list moderators can get the list of subscribers.  Are
>>> you a moderator of ooo-private?
>>> <orcmid>
>>>     No, I am not a moderator of ooo-private.  However, the automated
>>>     crosscheck.html report that Sam Ruby's script puts into the ooo-PPMC
>>>     private SVN confirms who is on ooo-private as part of the cross-
>>>     checking.
>>> </orcmid>
>>>
>>> That approach could work, especially since we're supposed to subscribe
>>> to that list using our Apache alias.
>>>
>>>> 3) Who will do the updating?
>>>> <orcmid>
>>>>   I will do it initially.  I will document the procedure so anyone on the
>>>> PPMC
>>>>   could take it over.
>>>> </orcmid>
>>>>
>>>> 4) How are you determining who is on the PPMC?  Based on vote?  Based
>>>> on subscribing to ooo-private?  Based on an authorization file?
>>>> <orcmid>
>>>>   I am not aware of anything like an authz for PPMC members.
>>>>   I use the fact that they are invited or elected to be on the PPMC and
>>>>   they have actually established themselves on the PPMC by subscribing
>>>>   to ooo-private.  I propose that someone who has been invited to the
>>>>   PPMC, is established as a committer, and has not subscribed to ooo-
>>>>   private to not be established as a PPMC member since they have not
>>>>   arranged to follow PPMC discussions and participate in voting.
>>>> </orcmid>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What about that authorization file for the private SVN repository?
>>> Would that yield a list of PPMC members?  Or is that really just a
>>> committers list?
>>>
>>> <orcmid>
>>>    I don't have visibility on any authz related to the ooo-PPMC private
>>>    SVN.  It is a sub-tree of repos/private/pmc/incubator/ and I don't know
>>>    how it is authorized.
>>> </orcmid>
>>>
>>> [ ... ]
>>>
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>>
>> "There is no such thing as coincidence."
>>            -- Leroy Jethro Gibbs, Rule #39
>>

-- 
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MzK

"There is no such thing as coincidence."
            -- Leroy Jethro Gibbs, Rule #39

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