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From "Marcus (OOo)" <>
Subject Re: Status of migration of OOo domains?
Date Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:20:25 GMT
Am 10/12/2011 12:51 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>> Shane, just to clarify a bit.  As far as I know, the PPMC does not have the
>> keys, as it were, to the live site.  Apparently someone does,
>> and some touch ups are made, but it is all sort of behind the scenes and, um,
>> not very transparent, especially since there is no archive or repository that
>> the PPMC has visibility into.
> Marcus is the only one I know of who has made changes to the existing OOo websites. I
don't know if he has access to the site template.

Don't forget Kay. She has also the power to make things happen. ;-)

However, I've just write access to the www + download + distribution 
parts of the website.

I don't know where exactly the site template is located. So, don't know 
yet if I can or not.


> If Apache Infra makes progress on the JIRA issues I mentioned then I think that we can
gain traction on moving the static website very soon. I'll flesh out a proposal
on the CWiki in the next few days based on the various content we have accumulated.
>> However, there does need to be some lofting around what is a roadmap here, and
>> how does the existing live site be staged (and users informed) for transition
>> of the properties under
>> I'm thinking on it.  I am trusting that others with their hands on the knobs
>> and dials will also speak up on what they can do by way of preparation for
>> staging, and then staging.
> One of the JIRA issues was for a staging server for If that is present
MANY hands are enabled as the Apache CMS will work directly on the site.
> Regards,
> Dave
>> - Dennis
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shane Curcuru []
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 13:55
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: Status of migration of OOo domains?
>> Heh, indeed, while I so completely disagree with Rob's style here that I
>> don't even know where to start, he does have a point in that things get
>> done in projects by people who actually do them.
>> Wearing my mentor hat, my primary job is to encourage the community
>> around this project to grow in a healthy manner and do the things
>> themselves.  So from my mentor hat perspective, I'm really not a very
>> good example in what I do.  As a mentor, there are things where you
>> should "do as I say, not as I do", because part of the point of being a
>> mentor is to help *you* (as in the community) actually start doing things.
>> ----
>> On the other hand, wearing my VP, Brand hat, I strongly urge the PPMC to
>> take action on my email, especially the points about ensuring some sort
>> of branding updates are done on existing websites.  In
>> particular, I'm concerned about the non-code areas - fundraising,
>> leadership, marketing, and the like.  I'd really like to see the PPMC
>> taking ownership and working out how they want to manage the transition
>> in ownership from all those web properties, but starting to at least
>> make some updates in place reflecting the future plans for the sites.
>> If not, then yes, I will eventually get to it, and I will do the work
>> myself, unilaterally, as VP, Brand (i.e. not as a mentor on this project).
>> It's inappropriate for the project to spend so long with so much
>> "orphan" content on oo.o sites, wherein it's kinda Oracle's (and is
>> perceived as dead by more people each day), and it's kinda ours (since
>> we have a transfer of the domains and marks).  We need action on showing
>> the rest of the world where we're planning to go with this great big
>> brand and chunk of content we've inherited.
>> - Shane

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