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From David McKay <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC
Date Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:24:00 GMT
That makes sense to me to.


On 02/10/11 18:08, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> +1
> Marcus
> Am 10/02/2011 01:06 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> On 09/30/2011 11:31 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>>> On 30 Sep 2011, at 19:15, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>> We have never adopted a formal position of having everyone be a
>>>> committer and PPMC member. So if we did not change anything, we
>>>> would still not have such a policy. I'm not arguing against the
>>>> status quo of not having such a policy.
>>> You appear to be arguing against the status quo of all new committers
>>> joining the PPMC though. So my question remains, is there really a
>>> problem with waiting until graduation to adjust this project's PMC?
>>> My sense is that the project is still in a formative stage and will
>>> need significant changes to the PMC before graduation - it has a
>>> number of PMC members who in a normal Apache project would not even
>>> be committers, for example. Once the dynamics of a fully functional
>>> project are evident I would expect to see a more complete rethink.
>>> The partial move of restricting admission to the PPMC now is
>>> counterintuitive if there is no current harm being done.
>>> S.
>> I'm inclined to go with Simon's reasoning on this issue. In other words,
>> leave the invitation to new committers as is -- with invitation to the
>> PPMC also.
>> We are still very much in the formative stage here at Apache, and,
>> without extended PPMC membership, we may actually miss extending
>> additional invitations to folks (only PPMC members can do this) who are
>> truly valuable based on a new member's involvement for one.
>> There are many items which can be passed by "lazy consensus". If PPMC
>> members choose NOT to involve themselves in these aspects, so what.
>> I see NO harm at all at continuing the current invitation process during
>> the podling process.

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