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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: Is the JRE license OK for inclusing in AOO?
Date Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:23:24 GMT
The Sun/Oracle OO.o distributions satisfy the requirements for installation on 
Microsoft Windows.  The LO distributions do as well.  Of course, including JVM 
in Sun/Oracle distributions was a no-brainer.

Since these are distributed in binary form only and the appropriate NOTICE 
information (formerly THIRDPARTYLICENSE...) is included, one would trust this 
survives ASF Legal review in all cases of components required to run and that 
are incorporated in the distribution (a binary release?) in conformance with 
rules for the respective redistributables.

It is not clear to me that either of those bundlings in binary releases is 
explicitly tolerated by the information that is provided at 
<http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html>.  There seems to be no help in the 
older draft either: <http://apache.org/legal/3party.html>.  I also note that 
if one is bundling the JVM or building Windows distributions, there are 
library dependencies and API dependencies too, somewhere deep in the works. 
(The LibreOffice folk have apparently stopped any JVM bundling but I don't 
know what they do about Microsoft redistributables.)

It seems that there is more that needs to be said about binary releases and 
how non-source, restrictive-license redistributables are incorporated in those 
releases to satisfy installation requirements and also provide run-time 
services to an Apache release.  I thought I saw how that was tolerable so long 
as no source was provided and the redistribution terms were honored, NOTICE 
was provided, etc.  I can't find anything clear-cut on looking again.

I think more words on this case from Robert Burrell Donkin would be helpful.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 08:39
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Is the JRE license OK for inclusing in AOO?

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.mail@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Has someone already thought about the license for the included JRE?
>
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/terms/license/index.html
>
> With releases from Sun/Oracle we put the JRE into (many) installation sets
> to make it easier for the user with the installation. But it's also required
> for some features as the Base module and some wizards.
>
> How can we continue this? Is the license compatible?
>

Presumably our Windows install includes Microsoft redistributable
binaries as well, MSVCRT DLL, etc.?


> There is already an issue for this:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118532
>
> Marcus
>

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