Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 493B28D7F for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 17:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18609 invoked by uid 500); 5 Sep 2011 17:36:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18329 invoked by uid 500); 5 Sep 2011 17:36:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18321 invoked by uid 99); 5 Sep 2011 17:36:45 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:36:45 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of dave2wave@comcast.net designates 76.96.30.64 as permitted sender) Received: from [76.96.30.64] (HELO qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.30.64) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:36:39 +0000 Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V5PV1h0071afHeLA75cEZG; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:36:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([67.180.51.144]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V5Yr1h00936gVt78d5YrrS; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:32:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] turn off mail address mangling at Gmane From: Dave Fisher In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 10:36:18 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Michael, +1 and +1 for your initiative! The topic has been discussed too much in = this and other forums. Regards, Dave On Sep 5, 2011, at 4:20 AM, Michael Stahl wrote: >=20 > hi all, >=20 > the ooo-dev list is available at gmane.org for NNTP access and via a = web > frontend [0]. >=20 > currently accessing this list via Gmane presents users not with the = real > mail addresses of posters, but with mangled mail addresses, for = example > . > when replying to such an address, the gmane.org mail server will = forward > the mail to the real (unmangled) address only after the sender has > answered a confirmation mail. > this makes it difficult for spammers to scrape the real mail = addresses. >=20 > as has been discussed in a thread[1] on ooo-dev recently this mangling > is annoying. >=20 > as Gary Lee pointed out[2], the Apache mail archive itself already = makes > the raw content of mails including real mail addresses available to = web > scrapers, for example [3]. >=20 > thus i propose to disable the address mangling at Gmane. >=20 > If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72 hours then > I will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above > proposal. >=20 > regards, > michael >=20 > PS: amazingly, if you look at the gmane.org homepage right now, = ooo-dev > is the 5th most active list today. >=20 > [0] http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel >=20 > [1] > = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201108.mbox/%3C= 002101cc6020$aba79b90$02f6d2b0$@acm.org%3E >=20 > [2] > = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201108.mbox/%3C= j345us$gmt$1@dough.gmane.org%3E >=20 > [3] > = http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201108.mbox/raw= /%3C002101cc6020$aba79b90$02f6d2b0$@acm.org%3E >=20 >=20