Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A7307460 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47126 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 15:00:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46859 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 15:00:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46832 invoked by uid 99); 4 Sep 2011 15:00:09 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:00:09 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of grobmeier@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:00:03 +0000 Received: by iagz35 with SMTP id z35so5337507iag.6 for ; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 07:59:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3e/66g3DGEsnWA8AOkqOi+5PEypxHqOczBDjA7DfQFw=; b=cpHim9yq2AD2kqUv1da2eS4XK4aXNrQvxrbfVWvSuZepDpZcKHexRLYoVMKMY0qggc KoijqPfg5y/qIDtCHuzWM8+Zk84Y9eRPmOlXENWR4xjzfC4c7YFUA0ewclbGxK54JQ/F 1C/MCVrF7dz85Kr49BGHxZcPiWP9jPuw0L6Ok= Received: by 10.42.148.194 with SMTP id s2mr2518922icv.503.1315148382189; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 07:59:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.176.71 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 07:59:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E5FB6F0.2060504@ellisons.org.uk> <4E5FC756.5010106@ellisons.org.uk> <4E5FD55C.40207@ellisons.org.uk> <4E5FE090.2020506@apache.org> <014801cc68e5$d5fd5290$81f7f7b0$@acm.org> <1314911707.1938.55.camel@sybil> <4E60193C.4090304@shanecurcuru.org> <4E606C19.40005@ellisons.org.uk> From: Christian Grobmeier Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:59:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: An invitation to committers to the OOo Community Forums To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Christian Grobmeier = wrote: >> Do you really want to discuss a users behavior in public? >> Wow, I really don't want to do that. I strongly believe that only a >> few people would discuss another guys behavior in public. > > It happens. =C2=A0In fact it happened here, on this list, yesterday. =C2= =A0There > was some pretty excessive vitriol, open and in public. =C2=A0And yet it > seemed to work into more mature and rational discussion today. > > If behavior discussions are going to occur at all, it's probably > better that they happen in public rather than there be the feeling of > a secret faceless committee to which users can neither respond nor > appeal. =C2=A0The latter can lead to discontent. It might be different to discuss roughly at the dev forums were most people know each other than in a public message boards were even my grandmother might participate. At this project I heard the term "end users" very often; I don't think you can use the same rules of heavy geek-discussion for end users of OpenOffice.