Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEE7078CA for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 50405 invoked by uid 500); 30 Sep 2011 16:20:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 50327 invoked by uid 500); 30 Sep 2011 16:20:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 50215 invoked by uid 99); 30 Sep 2011 16:20:38 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:20:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of rgardler@opendirective.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-wy0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:20:30 +0000 Received: by wyh5 with SMTP id 5so1349691wyh.6 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:20:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=opendirective.com; s=opendirective; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DYrcf2e9QHztDvEV8QjBN1A40gAxY0U2Rqw0JXTEnDs=; b=P+yUinjo6QPJ3ARzgOBJIWgZmAyvdpktO7Kyxo7AN6uZzOPPa6OOdcb3peKmhplY2F A0YGfRStDv6wZCrAOEo3k0SPxripobUlQf7Nwv1OkGDS4nQfYDUREYE1nTqN6B+9oUIX hHHMwLzhnz8X071Lzlc2cEmdVvCSpFXWzU66U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.13.66 with SMTP id b2mr3531638wba.44.1317399609696; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.87.137 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:20:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [86.158.97.151] In-Reply-To: References: <00cf01cc7f0d$90fec5a0$b2fc50e0$@apache.org> <207D9978-C34F-4358-9801-92115CE75C1C@webmink.com> <480AF15F-F4E6-4611-AFB9-7E103D0A64A9@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:20:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC From: Ross Gardler To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 30 September 2011 16:48, Ross Gardler wrote= : > Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. > On Sep 30, 2011 4:35 PM, "Dave Fisher" wrote: >> > > ... > >> >> I see no reason to stop offering PPMC membership with Committer status. = If >> the person chooses not to be on the PPMC that is fine. >> >> It is not that I don't think this topic is important, but I think a more >> important discussion is what parts of the project might require direct P= PMC >> member involvement as opposed to merely questioning and having appropria= te >> transparency into all parts to provide oversight. Do we need a PPMC memb= er >> directly administrating forums and wikis? Do we need the PPMC to provide= a >> generally "Lazy Consensus" approval of committers and other contributors >> filling roles within the Forum or Wiki administration? Should the PPMC >> require certain parts of the community to report status periodically? >> > > From a purely ASF point of view there are very few things that require PM= C > oversight. the following are the only ones that jump to mind: > > - release votes (which equates to IP=A0 due diligence) > - new committers/PMC members One more: - board reports Ross