Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA9D173BC for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42408 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 17:30:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 42141 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 17:30:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 42132 invoked by uid 99); 4 Sep 2011 17:30:25 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:30:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [213.233.128.43] (HELO mail1.vodafone.ie) (213.233.128.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:30:19 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At0GAIe0Y05tTHZz/2dsb2JhbABBmTiPMHiBRgEBBTo0GwgDDQsuVxkUh2G3OoZqBJhbi2E Received: from unknown (HELO 100AkerWood) ([109.76.118.115]) by mail1.vodafone.ie with SMTP; 04 Sep 2011 18:29:56 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 18:29:55 +0100 From: Rory O'Farrell To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: An invitation to committers to the OOo Community Forums Message-Id: <20110904182955.1d00deb656dc50a46f93296f@iol.ie> In-Reply-To: References: <4E5FB6F0.2060504@ellisons.org.uk> <014801cc68e5$d5fd5290$81f7f7b0$@acm.org> <1314911707.1938.55.camel@sybil> <4E60193C.4090304@shanecurcuru.org> <4E606C19.40005@ellisons.org.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0beta2 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:35:05 -0400 Rob Weir wrote: > This is really easy to resolve: > > 1) Discussions on evolving forum policies and rules must occur on > ooo-dev. These are tantamount to proposals, and they are subject to > Apache Way decision making, just like any other part of the project. > If I wanted to suggest a different editing policy for the community > wiki, or a new moderation policy for ooo-users, I would be slapped > down if I raised it on ooo-private. The transparency principle > applies equally to the forums. Discussions behind the scene are not proposals; they emerge into one or more consensuses, which are then considered as proposals and a selection made. I doubt there will be much objection to this. > > 2) Non-confidential, day-to-day operations of the forum should occur > in a publicly-readable forum, or on a new public mailing list. I'd let > the forum volunteers decide which. Such a publicly readable form is the Forum, which is openly accessible; to post to it requires a User to choose a Username and to indicate his OS and version of OOo or OOo fork, > > 3) Private discussions on confidential matters, including your > grandmother, occur either on ooo-private or on a private forum that > echos its posts to ooo-private. Again, I'd let the forum volunteers > decide which. These occur on three dedicated channels as I outlined earlier; the offer is there to allow interested Apache personel access to them immediately. A more public (even if still private mechanism) can be worked out, such as that they can be automatically echoed to a monitorong list. Much of the discussion is merely administrative and may increase the load on such monitoring lists. I will echo this posting to the private OOo channels - perhaps we are now getting somewhere? -- Rory O'Farrell