Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D796275CE for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 50156 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 15:50:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 50061 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 15:50:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 50053 invoked by uid 99); 4 Sep 2011 15:50:04 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:50:04 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [213.233.128.43] (HELO mail1.vodafone.ie) (213.233.128.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:49:57 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At0GADCdY05tTHZz/2dsb2JhbABDmTaPMHiBRgEBBAE6RAsIAw0kFVcZFIdfAgK3doNMgx4EmFuLYTk Received: from unknown (HELO 100AkerWood) ([109.76.118.115]) by mail1.vodafone.ie with SMTP; 04 Sep 2011 16:47:32 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:47:11 +0100 From: Rory O'Farrell To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers Message-Id: <20110904164711.66a6f6b5b8b5175f3ae684ed@iol.ie> In-Reply-To: References: <4E6361AE.3070907@ellisons.org.uk> <4E638B48.9020200@ellisons.org.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0beta2 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:45:31 -0400 Rob Weir wrote: > I don't think discussions about how the project is run is something > that we should be doing in private. Discussing such matters, even if > strong opinions are raised, is the essence of transparency. Remember, > controversial is not the same as confidential. In Apache projects we > discuss non-confidential matters openly. As far as I recollect, the "private discussions" referred to were those concerned with moderation decisions, which decisions were reviewed by the volunteers on a private channel on the Forum. There are three private channels open to me on the http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ as a Volunteer - Delete Topics, which is a holding channel to permit undeleting of a posting (held for three days), EN Forum issues and "Server - Site Governance". In these two latter channels suggestions or queries were channeled to Terry concerning code alteration and other technical matters, and governance queries were raised, as, for example, review of suspicious activity of a given poster, or reconsideration of the actions of a moderator. All other discussions take place in public. -- Rory O'Farrell