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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:45:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re : [Discuss] Lost in translation
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The royal we is often presumptuous, so take it under=0Aadvisement not to sp=
eak on behalf of the group unless=0Agranted such permission more or less ex=
plicitly.=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A> From: Dennis E. Hamil=
ton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>=0A> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org=0A> Cc: =
=0A> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 6:42 PM=0A> Subject: RE: Re : [Discu=
ss] Lost in translation=0A> =0A> I think you are miss-reading me and certai=
nly making too big of a deal about =0A> this.=A0 Please get off my back.=A0=
 Or practice diplomacy, perhaps?=0A> =0A> No one here, in the past two week=
s, has suggested that either JB or Sophie had =0A> been administrating that=
 portion of fr.OO.o and might still be able to help.=A0 =0A> Why someone wh=
o knew that had nothing to offer since Eric described the problem =0A> on t=
his list on August 19, I cannot say.=A0 I consider it quite generous of me =
to =0A> say that "we didn't know" =0A> =0A> Did you know it?=A0 Do you know=
 who knew it?=0A> =0A> Also, until Raphael just explained the deal with ken=
aiadmin as the =0A> "project" leader, was that knowledge "we" had?=0A> =0A>=
 - Dennis =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> From: Rob Weir=
 [mailto:robweir@apache.org] =0A> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 15:11=
=0A> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org=0A> Subject: Re: Re : [Discuss] Lost =
in translation=0A> =0A> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton=
=0A> <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:=0A>>  We didn't know to contact JB or=
 Sophie.=0A>> =0A> =0A> Please stop saying "we don't know".=A0 It is really=
 annoying to =0A> those=0A> who do. I'm sure that you have no firm basis fo=
r believing that no one=0A> on the list knows how to contact Sophie.=A0 How=
 could you possibly?=0A> =0A> Of course, you could just say "I don't know",=
 but in that case, =0A> what's=0A> the point?=A0 It is not really useful fo=
r everyone who doesn't know an=0A> answer to a question to jump in to share=
 that fact.=A0 What if we all=0A> did that?=A0 So maybe don't try to be the=
 first one to post a response=0A> to a question if you don't know the answe=
r.=A0  Wait a little while and=0A> give someone who does know a chance to p=
ost a response.=A0 For example,=0A> in this case, the two people who did po=
st informative answers within=0A> minutes of your "we don't know".=0A> =0A>=
 Thanks,=0A> =0A> -Rob=0A> =0A>>  We can contact them.=0A>> =0A>>  Thank yo=
u.=0A>> =0A>> =0A>>  -----Original Message-----=0A>>  From: FR web forum [m=
ailto:OOo@athena.apache.org]=0A>>  Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 14:36=
=0A>>  To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org=0A>>  Subject: Re: Re : [Discuss] L=
ost in translation=0A>> =0A>>  Bonjour Fred ;-)=0A>> =0A>>> I guess that th=
e answer is somewhere in Oracle... but not even sure.=0A>>  Maybe ask to th=
e ex french community members.=0A>>  Did you contact JB Faure or Sophie Gau=
tier about that?=0A>> =0A>> =0A>