Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48E668B4D for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 39881 invoked by uid 500); 1 Sep 2011 19:25:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39769 invoked by uid 500); 1 Sep 2011 19:25:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39760 invoked by uid 99); 1 Sep 2011 19:25:53 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:25:53 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 75.98.160.130 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.98.160.130] (HELO a2s15.a2hosting.com) (75.98.160.130) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:25:45 +0000 Received: from 63-226-210-225.tukw.qwest.net ([63.226.210.225] helo=Astraendo) by a2s15.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QzCtA-0005lO-9s for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:25:24 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: References: <4E5FB6F0.2060504@ellisons.org.uk> <4E5FC756.5010106@ellisons.org.uk> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: An invitation to committers to the OOo Community Forums Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:26:37 -0700 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <012801cc68dd$122e7f40$368b7dc0$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJ2ZDHcluxnJ4ftvhD0h4u91LrbYwFYJKmSAxxY2KgBP7gW7JO3TYvw Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s15.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Rob, I believe Terry is talking about the openoffice.org domain in situ and = the existing OOo forums there. This has nothing to do with anything = under Apache ooo custody at this time, nor does it have anything to do = with the test version he has running in order to learn how to port. It = was an offer to provide any interim support on the live openoffice.org = forums, and understand their administration ther, not anything on = Apache. I assume that the rights that Terry Ellison has on openoffice.org is not = anything that were conferred to him via the ASF. I believe that there is no policy matter here, and if it is it is = between Oracle and Terry and those Terry approves to be there. - Dennis POLICY MATTERS THREADS There is certainly a policy matter on how administration is done on a = port to Apache if we insist on operating it on an apache.org domain. There is a different policy matter, but still one, if we continue to = operate it on the openoffice.org domain even though hosted in some = sanitary way on Apache infrastructure. We already have unresolved discussions on other threads concerning that. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]=20 Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:05 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: An invitation to committers to the OOo Community Forums On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Terry Ellison = wrote: > Rob, > > This was a polite invitation to committers if they wanted to see how = the > forums operate. I will take your -1 to mean that you don't want to = take me > up on the offer. > Let me be clearer then. The -1 is to your proposal to invite committers and assign them permissions to a private forum. This is not a technical objection, but a policy objection. Please do not take further steps on this until we can get a Mentor to weigh in on. Thanks, -Rob > Your reply is a valid topic but entirely off *this* topic. = Unfortunately > since this is a DL and not a forum, I can't move this to new topic = which > relates to your point. However, if you care to make this on another = thread > on the topic you discuss, then I will reply there. > > Can we try to maintain some thread discipline, please? > > Regards > Terry > > On 01/09/11 17:59, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Terry Ellison >> wrote: >>> >>> Anyone is able to join the OOo Community forums, but we also have a >>> number >>> of closed forums use for internal management of the site. If any >>> committers >>> would like to have access to these, then just make sure that they've = got >>> an >>> active account on the current production service (not >>> ooo-forums.apache.org) >>> and email me me from it requesting access. I will then raise you to >>> "volunteer" so that you can see the main closed forums. >>> >> -1 >> >> I propose that we eliminate any such "internal management" = forums... >> > >