Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9478707A for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46414 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 23:28:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46176 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 23:28:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45896 invoked by uid 99); 4 Sep 2011 23:28:17 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:28:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 75.98.160.130 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.98.160.130] (HELO a2s15.a2hosting.com) (75.98.160.130) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:28:10 +0000 Received: from 63-226-210-225.tukw.qwest.net ([63.226.210.225] helo=Astraendo) by a2s15.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0M6P-0004Qx-9C for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:27:49 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: Subject: RE: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:29:02 -0700 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <011001cc6b5a$7016c1b0$50444510$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcxrWjN0cjFKVV79SVSqgkXAg9Upfw== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s15.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org As far as I know, we have no (moral, and probably not legal either) = right to issue ultimatums to the folks participating on the = OpenOffice.org forums. I may have to keep repeating that until it sinks in. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Terry Ellison [mailto:Terry@ellisons.org.uk]=20 Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:34 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators = and volunteers On 04/09/11 18:01, Rob Weir wrote: > If the > current volunteers are not on board with the Apache project, then > we'll need to explore alternative approaches, such as: > > 1) Point users to http://www.oooforum.org/ > > 2) Do support via mailing list only > > 3) Use forums, but find new volunteers If these are your options, then perhaps we should put this to a formal=20 PPMC vote and inform the community of this -- if the outcome is as you=20 are proposin ing this ultimatum, then you really are forcing them into=20 the revolt option. Very unnecessary and regrettable, IMHO