From ooo-dev-return-4621-apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Sep 1 02:21:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C142847B for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 02:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 86807 invoked by uid 500); 1 Sep 2011 02:21:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 86548 invoked by uid 500); 1 Sep 2011 02:21:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 86540 invoked by uid 99); 1 Sep 2011 02:21:07 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 02:21:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-ew0-f47.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 02:21:06 +0000 Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so907435ewy.6 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:21:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.5.206 with SMTP id 54mr609371eel.157.1314843664839; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.188.2 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:21:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00b901cc6846$88f52b70$9adf8250$@acm.org> References: <01bf01cc675c$88a09820$99e1c860$@apache.org> <109001cc682a$24481280$6cd83780$@16degrees.com.au> <1314829480.2014.29.camel@sybil> <-4734567727307012124@unknownmsgid> <1314832774.6145.2.camel@sybil> <00b901cc6846$88f52b70$9adf8250$@acm.org> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:21:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: users@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] dev@openoffice.org] From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Hmm, for (2) I think you have to use orcmid@msn.com for me, then. =C2=A0M= ost of my e-mail addresses (including orcmid@apache.org) are not associated= with an SMTP server, if I get your drift. > > Where do we learn how to send the commands involved in (2). If you are a moderator for a list, you can send a blank email to foo-help. So, for example, to ooo-users-help@i.a.o That will return a list of moderator commands. > > If you want to experiment on how strong that condition is, register both = of those addresses above, and I'll see if only one of them works. > > I assume it is obvious when the list software does not recognize a modera= tor sending in the required manner. > > =C2=A0- Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:40 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: users@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussio= n] dev@openoffice.org] > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM, drew wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 18:41 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:25 PM, drew wrote: >>> >>> > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 08:05 +1000, Gavin McDonald wrote: >>> >> Sometime before this thread has deviated into too many different dir= ections it may >>> >> be an idea if someone created an infra issue asking for the list to = be created. >>> > >>> > *chuckling*....what an idea. >>> > >>> > haven't had the pleasure of using JIRA yet, I could do this. >>> > >>> > @Lsit >>> > Is it just ooo-user@i.a.o for now then? >>> > >>> > Dennis, Rob and Simon as moderators IIRC. >>> > >>> > Going once.. >>> >>> Uh. =C2=A0I had already said I would enter a JIRA issue for this. I wan= ted >>> a few more moderators first and to get consensus on the attachment >>> question. >> >> OK - it's all yours...no problem. >> > > Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as being territorial on that. > > I'd also like to to confirm email addresses before sending in the request= . > > > Dennis: orcmid@apache.org > Rob: robweir@apache.org > Simon: simon@webmink.com > Hirano-san: =C2=A0khirano@gmail.com > > There are two kinds of moderation duties that come up. > > 1) Passing or rejecting posts from non-subscribers. =C2=A0 These require > that you either do a response to the email or click the embedded link > in the moderation note. Since the authentication tokens are embedded > in the moderation note, it doesn't really matter what email address > you use to deal with this. > > 2) Dealing with repetitive out-of-the-office notices, people who > cannot figure out how to unsubscribe, spammers, etc. =C2=A0 =C2=A0This is= done > by sending email commands from your moderator address. =C2=A0Sending from > another address or spoofing the moderator address won't cut it. =C2=A0You > really need to be sending from an SMTP server associated with your > address. =C2=A0At least that has been my experience. > > So if a moderator wants to use a different address for moderation, > especially considering the requirements for 2) above, please let me > know. > > -Rob > >> >> Best wishes, >> >> /drew >> >> > >