Hmm, for (2) I think you have to use orcmid@msn.com for me, then.  Most of my e-mail addresses (including orcmid@apache.org) are not associated with an SMTP server, if I get your drift.

Where do we learn how to send the commands involved in (2).

If you want to experiment on how strong that condition is, register both of those addresses above, and I'll see if only one of them works.

I assume it is obvious when the list software does not recognize a moderator sending in the required manner.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:40
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ooo-user] was RE: users@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] dev@openoffice.org]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 18:41 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 6:25 PM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 08:05 +1000, Gavin McDonald wrote:
>> >> Sometime before this thread has deviated into too many different directions it may
>> >> be an idea if someone created an infra issue asking for the list to be created.
>> >
>> > *chuckling*....what an idea.
>> >
>> > haven't had the pleasure of using JIRA yet, I could do this.
>> >
>> > @Lsit
>> > Is it just ooo-user@i.a.o for now then?
>> >
>> > Dennis, Rob and Simon as moderators IIRC.
>> >
>> > Going once..
>>
>> Uh.  I had already said I would enter a JIRA issue for this. I wanted
>> a few more moderators first and to get consensus on the attachment
>> question.
>
> OK - it's all yours...no problem.
>

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as being territorial on that.

I'd also like to to confirm email addresses before sending in the request.


Dennis: orcmid@apache.org
Rob: robweir@apache.org
Simon: simon@webmink.com
Hirano-san:  khirano@gmail.com

There are two kinds of moderation duties that come up.

1) Passing or rejecting posts from non-subscribers.   These require
that you either do a response to the email or click the embedded link
in the moderation note. Since the authentication tokens are embedded
in the moderation note, it doesn't really matter what email address
you use to deal with this.

2) Dealing with repetitive out-of-the-office notices, people who
cannot figure out how to unsubscribe, spammers, etc.    This is done
by sending email commands from your moderator address.  Sending from
another address or spoofing the moderator address won't cut it.  You
really need to be sending from an SMTP server associated with your
address.  At least that has been my experience.

So if a moderator wants to use a different address for moderation,
especially considering the requirements for 2) above, please let me
know.

-Rob

>
> Best wishes,
>
> /drew
>
>